I do not want to upset anyone with my post, but

[micmak]

If your cat/dog is unwell you take it to the vet.
If you're unwell you go to see the doc.
In both case you will have tests to find the problem.
The vet will say The cat/dog has incurable cancer " The animal is in pain he/she would be best put to sleep". As hard as it is we agree and go home and cry bucket loads.
My Father died from pancreas cancer. He really suffered great pain to die. Twice a day he was given morphine. It was not enough. When he died he was all skin and bone. Had he been a dog no such suffering would have occurred
Just a thought..

[jno]

but who has the right to say he should die? And if someone does, who should kill him?

[erin-x]

I'm with you on this one... With the person in question's consent, of course!

[HowardKennitby]

Was this recent? Modern palliative care should load enough morphine in to remove the pain.

[Ann]

A very hard thing to decide or think about - but in terms of suffering ............

[micmak]

jno how would you feel in so much pain.?

[micmak]

Howard this was in 1990. I cried for him he was in so much pain.

[erin-x]

Howard... My Uncle passed very recently from cancer and was given morphine every day at the end. He would sleep nearly whole days for weeks until he eventually slipped away. When he wasn't sleeping he was still uncomfortable. Imagine being that drugged up anyway. That can't be nice own it's own!

[sherrardk]

Himself wants 'help' if ever he is in this position (he lost his sister to MS so maybe this has shaped his views). Don't know if I could do 'help' even though I love him and wouldn't want to see him suffer.

[Mamyalynne]

micmak this is so difficult, on the face of it the analogy is sound - but it is so much deeper than that. Part of me agrees if the person diagnosed terminal expresses those views, my husband never did, savoured every last moment with us, palliative care meant his pain was an absolute minimum.

You have certainly not upset me by raising this topic and I feel for you - I really do, take good care of yourself ((HUG))

Mamya ♥

[naomi24]

My father died of pancreatic cancer too – and his end came with a dose of a drug that his body was incapable of surviving. It’s been happening for years, but we just don’t openly acknowledge it.

[paddywak]

Why would you upset anybody mic? If everybody is honest it must be something we've all thought about at some time or another. I've been fortunate in that the question has never arisen in the family but what would I do if it did? I just don't know I like to think I could say the word and let them go, but I just don't know.

[micmak]

So it's only people who have to suffer to die, Help them along, whether you are a doc or not is not allowed.The pain doesn't matter to those not suffering it. You clearly did not see my father's pain.

[naomi24]

Micmak, you clearly have not read my post.

[EcclesCake]

My mother was very definitely helped along at the end.

[jno]

I don't know, micmak. But I'd still ask: who gets to kill me?

[micmak]

Naomi. mamya I type slow one finger. your posts were not there when i started to post

[Mamyalynne]

micmak your experience sounds horrific and certainly appears your father's pain was not properly controlled, no one is disagreeing with you as such, if I had been asked to 'help', I may well have considered it, however as said large doses of heavy morphine usually brings an end to suffering in most terminal cancer patients.

[micmak]

jno. If you are in that much pain does it matter. Or Are you happy to live in much pain?

[DTCwordfan]

ditto my father, micmac....colon cancer that spread southwards.

How are you feeling, any news of why you were in. Jeza said it was for you to tell us if you want. And you can tell me to buqqer off - no offence taken or meant.....

[Mamyalynne]

jno I hope I am not misunderstanding micmak,in my book it would be you who decides if you need the 'help' to bring about your end not someone else.