'new Breed'

[lankeela]

I have been sent a link to an advert on an online dog sales site for a supposed new dog breed called 'The Daisy' and puppies for sale at £900 each - they come with Kennel Certificate Registration - they are mongrels being bred from their crossbred *** and passed off as a new 'designer' breed. Now I don't want to get into the rights and wrong of crossing breeds or whether or not they are healthier but I would like to inform people that these are not a 'new' breed and the Kennel Certificate Registration is merely a made up certificate that anyone can apply for with no knowledge of the parents or grandparents - it is purely a commercial business. The dogs cannot be shown or offspring registered with the Kennel Club, which is obviously what the breeders are trying to insinuate by the wording in their advert. Neither can they guarantee that they are non moulting, or hypoallergenic, and their advert is misleading in that respect. What I am really trying to say is 'let the buyer beware' and don't be fooled into thinking that breeders like this are producing anything other than mongrels (they are not even first crosses) and as such can also carry any inherited conditions that either parent might have.

[Booldawg]

Seems to be a lot of it about. Labradoodle, Cockapoo -all you're doing is paying over the odds for a 'mutt'.

[chaptazbru2]

NEVER go to a breeder, rescue a dog from a dogs home, plenty of them there waiting for their forever homes. And in the meantime, breeders go on breeding !!

[RATTER15]

chaptazbru2, that really isnt fair, many people want or dont want specific traits in dogs, the traits can often be found or ruled out by getting certain breeds from breeders. Not everybody just wants a mutt, people often want specific breeds for specific reasons.

When you get a mutt that you fall in love with at the kennel, you are often just falling in love with the looks of the dog and usually know very little of the history or the character of the dog.

I have no problems with getting mutts from kennels, I'm just saying that it isn't for everyone!

[RATTER15]

Also, the labradoodle was created for a specific purpose, this was to enable blind people with allergy problems to have a dog that was unlikely to cause issue due to the crossing of the poodle. It did in fact work to some degree but then the labradoodle started having health problems., that guy now regrets having anything to do with the creation of that cross breed!

[wolf63]

£900 for a mutt is a bit steep. I looked it up - Bichon Frise / Poodle / Shih-Tzu Hybrid Dog is the description given.

If I decide to get another dog it would probably be a pedigree - and the breed and breeder well researched in advance.

[ladybirder]

Why couldn't they just use a standard poodle Ratter?

[Baldric]

We got our Dobie *** (female dog) from a Rescue when she was 2½ years old, she's 9 now and has been/still is a superb pet, no idea why she was given up, she fitted in with us right away.

[whirlyhurly]

Never heard of a dobie ??

[woofgang]

Its short for doberman whirlyhurly

[ladybirder]

Surely most or all breeds got their own rescue.
Lankeela it sounds as if that ad is at best misleading and at worst downright lies. Could you report it to trading standards or someone else if that's the wrong body?

[whirlyhurly]

Oh, yes, ovcourse , thanks woofgang, Dobermans used to be very popular here, but I've not seen on in years. Staffies have now become the fav.

[whirlyhurly]

^one

[Prudie]

You'd think people couldn't possibly be so stupid to fall for an ad like that but obviously they do. Hope you can spread the word lankeela. I think getting a dog from a rescue centre is very noble and thank goodness lots do however not everyone wants a dog of unknown past or indeed an adult. I have every intention of getting a puppy when I retire, I want a puppy that can grow with me. I also know it will be a pedigree of a breed I know and love, so fully agree with Ratter.

[wildwood]

Generally, rescued dogs are pre-trained/assessed to make sure they are suited to a specific owner (kids etc) so they make great pets.
Unless you are planning to show a dog, it makes no sense to get a quality pedigree one. If a particular breed appeals to you, then there are always 'pedigree' dogs (often without papers from conscientious breeders) which are unsuitable for showing and cost less than a top quality one.

Leave the dog breeding to the dedicated kennels as it is not a cheap venture if you do it properly.

[RATTER15]

Ladybirder, ///Why couldn't they just use a standard poodle Ratter?/// I think that poodles are just too scatty and would never be reliable enough to use as a dog for a blind person, so with the right breeding they were able to breed enough of the poodle into the lab for the intended purpose, and now I see labradoodles ranging from miniature poodle size to German shepherd size with all manner of coat types! Its all gone mad.

[whirlyhurly]

My dog is the ideal "cross" which is a Bedlington/Whippet, just "Mr Perfect" in every way.

[ladybirder]

Picture please whirly.

Thanks Ratter it was just that I know poodles are very intelligent but yep, they can be scatty;-)

[ladybirder]

Prudie you can get puppies from rescue centres as well. Would you consider choosing the breed you want and finding the appropriate breed rescue on line and registering with them? They will then contact you when they have a suitable pup available.

[Prudie]

HI LB, yes of course and that's a good idea. I don't want a show quality dog nor something I'd breed from but I do want a pure-bred boxer. I grew up with them and have had one in the past. It's just a breed I love. When the time is right I'll certainly look at that option.

[lankeela]

Technically there is nothing 'illegal' with this advert - but it is intended to deceive to make people think they are getting something special. As for people getting a rescue dog as against purebreds I am the coordinator for our breed rescue - although some we get in are suitable for most people, many are not and one we have in at present was not socialised as a youngster and so is petrified of meeting new people. It will take a lot of time and patience to bring him round and one false move will put him right back where he was, say he gets taken where there are a lot of people or kids running round. This sort of dog needs a particular type of owner, who is willing to spend the time with him and he will make the most loyal loving dog, but that person may take some time to find.