Seadragon

[anotheoldgit]

Well what can one say? I would not have come across these rants against me if I had chosen not to contribute to R1geezer's post regarding Bin Snoopers.

Whatever your somewhat strange fixation with me as got to do with Bin Snoopers, only you and your psychologist knows.

You accuse me of not answering certain issues, and of not creating an AOG question on the recent Dudley disturbance.

First let me say I do not need you to say what I should choose to post on, secondly may I quote you?

/// I don't sit online continuously by the way hence my sporadic posts.///

I also do not sit on line continuously, waiting to answer you.

/// Oldgit I suggest you offer some sort of answer excluding your classic 'sympathy' one before I end up posting a final harsh and mean rant at you.///

Post as many 'harsh and mean rants at me as you wish’ but please be prepared to receive some in return from me.

But apart from this you earlier warned me that you would no longer read my posts, to this I say please feel free.

I read various accounts regarding the Dudley disturbances, and got many different views although many seemed to shy away from any accusations regarding the actions of the UAF, although this group are not squeaky clean as a similar rally in Victoria Square, Bolton, Lancashire in March 2010, pointed out.

Assistant Chief Constable Garry Shewan, from Greater Manchester Police, said at that time, "the EDL had protested by flag-waving and "vitriolic name-calling" but reserved his criticism for the UAF".

"We have seen groups of people, predominantly associated with the UAF, engaging in violent confrontation,"

/// Weyman Bennett, the UAF joint secretary who organised the protest, was arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit violent disorder, police said.///

To be continued

[anotheoldgit]

Continuation.

As can be seen from this photo that the EDL isn't racist, against the rise of militant Muslims, yes, but not racist.

http://www.demotix.co...led/photos/293328.jpg

Those 'Thugs' who in the name of the EDL highjacked the planned peaceful demonstration deserve all that the law can throw at them.


/// She doesn't know where the protesters came from but suddenly they targeted only - black and asian cars - abuse and kicked her and other coloured peoples cars.///
I find this rather suspicious, Are you telling me that here we have an elderly Asian woman who suddenly is having her car pelted stones, smashing her car back window, kicked her car and shouted racist abuse at her.

[anotheoldgit]

Continuation.

[anotheoldgit]

Yet she was calm enough to notice that the thugs were only attacking other coloured peoples cars, by that I presume you mean Blacks and Asians, we don’t use the term ‘coloured’ anymore.

And the black cars targeted also had a variety of generations and sexes within them, all pretty descriptive from an aged terrified for life and panicking female, she should get a job on ‘Crime Watch’.

/// This woman's story and all the past posts and time I have given to you Oldgit fall on deaf ears.///

Hardly but if you begrudge ‘all the time you give me’ Then just don’t bother, you would save me a great deal of time.

/// I waited for an answer today and you didn't provide one as you didn't the last question I asked. I think you are a racist. ///

I knew one could be accused at being a racist for a number of reasons, but never for failing to provide a person with an answer.

/// There is alot of truth in the saying - 'A Cheetah doesn't change its spots'.
Good night ///

Wrong again it is a Leopard, stop now you are making yourself sound rather silly.

Incidentally, don’t keep saying “I don’t get p!ssed off”

And then continue to say you do.

///Just cannot stand injustice - it really p!sses me off.///

[sp1814]

I've got my bucket of popcorn and large cup of Pepsi, and am down at the ringside for round two of this.

<ding ding>

[youngmafbog]

The rant of all rants there AOG.

I'll take a seat next to SP and wait for the next round too !

[anotheoldgit]

At the moment I think she has locked herself in a darkened room, trying so hard not to get get p1ssed off.

But hang in there sp, it may be worth waiting for.

[anotheoldgit]

Still hanging in there sp and youngma ?

It look as if you are in for a long wait.

Don't wait up tonight, methinks Seadragon will be up all night though, burning the midnight oil.

[Seadragon]

Steve, yes, sorry they are your words, recalled much more stronger on Oldgit's post when he referenced them. And was it you I quoted 'ignorance is strength?' I can't be bothered to check it but coincendently (however spelt) 'War is peace:ignorance is strength' I saw quoted on John Pilger's site. Ist time I checked his site out although I am a fan of the few books and programmes I have managed to see and read.

Oldgit - The 'rant' came from a failure to answer a question relating to the EDL scenario. I didn't make any connection between yourself and bins, bin snoopers, recycling or in fact Geezer - those are your own thoughts. Thus your 1st point is invalid. I shall return to your 2nd.

I only entered AB to see your response - didn't intend posting a response myself and wouldn't have but it seems you and the premier audience are waiting for a reply. Can't guarantee first-class entertainment though.

I think it was someone else who said they not reading your posts - I said I would not contribute to that thread in question. (But this is nitty-gritty)


Dudley incident
cont....

[Seadragon]

Pathetic is all I have to say.

Please re-read what I posted to you on Geezer's thread. Your news is from the papers - I gave you a real victim's experience and you question her account? Hope you never sit on a jury as your ingrained prejudices would cloud your reasoning.

I don't begrudge you anything.

I find it sad that my efforts in trying to get you to understand or accept that some of your views are racist and not only ignorant but can potentially be seen as harmful when posted on a public website, have not been met with any understanding - hence my cheetah (corrected to leopard) saying.

I came to the conclusion you are a racist from the words you write and do not write. It is a simple process of reasoning - I took my time I admit, but the truth is there.

Funny how you don't deny it?

Finally you quite early on pleasantly ask - 'secondly may I quote you?'

Well as someone who considers themselves to uphold and espouse british values, you certainly did not give me the respect to enable a reply.

- No, you may not quote me.

And since you did I not only dislike you but consider you to be incredibly rude.
Good evening.

[Seadragon]

That's all folks.

[anotheoldgit]

How very disappointing, I expected more.

Since you have not given me permission to quote you, (No, you may not quote me), I now cannot answer any of your points.