James Bulger Murder Film.

[Theland]

https://www.change.org/p/the-oscars-stop-the-james-bulger-movie-from-being-shown-and-taken-off-the-oscars-short-list

Please sign the petition.

[Rockrose]

//So by your reasoning, no books, films, tv programmes, etc can ever be written or made that are based on real-life events?//
That’s why he’s so keen on the bible!!

[Rockrose]

I wonder if the family were consulted on the documentary that was shown on tv last year on the interviews of T&V?

[Neveracrossword]

Theland, I don't believe that you're as obtuse as you're making out. I'm sure all parents here can put themselves in the shoes of the parents, irrespective of the number of times you tell us to.

[Theland]

All have it your own way and agree with each other.
That's me out.
Sign or don't sign.
You are not important.
Bye.

[pastafreak]

I wouldn't make a judgement on the film without seeing it. Nor would I try to stop the person from making a film. I also would not attempt to censor the film after it's been made. We live in a society where we can write, paint, make films.

From the filmmaker...quoted in The Washington Post
// “While it is a painfully difficult case to understand, I believe we have a responsibility to try and make sense of what happened,” Lambe said. He added: “There has been criticism that the film ‘humanises’ the killers, but if we cannot accept that they are human beings, we will never begin to understand what could have driven them to commit such a horrific crime.” //

[nailit]

Theland, just curious here..
havnt you got any kind of sympathy here for the killers? (as a christian)
Turn the other cheek and all that?
Or does that only apply where you personally want it to?

[nailit]

Oh, he's gone!

[ichkeria]

Normally I simply wouldn’t reply but I feel quite strongly:
No.

[nailit]

//You are not important.
Bye.//
Are we not important in Gods eyes?
Obviously not judging by his servants!

[Mamyalynne]

I am not agreeing with anyone - I have made my own decision.

Don't be so insulting.

When you post a petition, give details and allow people to make up their own minds.

[pastafreak]

I wonder about all the "real life" crimes, murders, abductions etc on telly that are endlessly repeated over and over every night of the week. Surely those are also upsetting for the families...but they still got made. Maybe money was exchanged...

[bodeker]

I signed because of my own personal feelings, when this awful crime was committed I did not read or watch anything about what happened to James. I could not as I felt you cannot unsee or unhear what was done to this poor boy. As a mother I felt his mother would never be able to shut her eyes again without imaging what was done to her child and retain her sanity. Maybe that's me not facing up to reality , but I have a choice and I don't want that in my head and as to why anyone would willingly sit and listen to that horror I cannot understand but that is their choice.

[jno]

In Cold Blood was a very good film. Heavenly Creatures was a brilliant one. Both were about murder cases involving young people. (The killers in Heavenly Creatures are still alive; one writes detective novels.)

It would have been nonsense for either film to have been banned just because people remembered the cases. People do not own tragedies just because someone from their family was involved.

[Ken4155]

I haven't signed, either. Not because i am heartless but because i have a choice whether to sign or not. I also have a choice whether to watch this film or not and, of course, i will not. I had the utmost sympathy for Denise Bulger when this crime occurred but, over the years, it seems to me that she is expecting to be notified of every aspect, every moment of the two killers' lives - which disturbs me a little and makes me believe that she thrives on being in the public eye. Just my opinion, of course. As i very much doubt she will ever watch this film, i don't see how she will have to relive the horror of what took place.

[Cloverjo]

Ken//i don't see how she will have to relive the horror of what took place.//

The film's release and nomination for awards means she will hear and see references to the terrible time all over again. In addition to her own private horrors.

[pastafreak]

With or without this film, there are and always will be references to both her son and those two boys. That won't change any time soon unfortunately...it's the way things are.

[sherrardk]

Clover - do you not think that she thinks about what happened to her son everyday, regardless of if it is the subject of a film or not?

[Old_Geezer]

I'm unsure it should be banned, but I'm not without sympathy for those that do. I read that Director Vincent Lambe said he wanted to "humanise" the killers. We know they're human, else they'd not have been arrested. It smacks of attempts to create sympathy for the guilty, and whilst the victim's family are around to be aware of it. And as such is close to disrespecting the victim. Not a good thing to have done.

[pastafreak]

Does anyone ever think of their parents? What they may have gone through. I admit to never reading anything about them.

[Ken4155]

Cloverjo, as Pastafreak says, the memory will remain stark for the rest of her natural. However, as i said, i do think that she sometimes appears to go out of her way to keep the memory of what happened current in the public eye. I may well be doing her a disservice, but as i said earlier, it is just the impression i have formed over the ensuing years.