More To This Story Than Meets The Eye?

[albaqwerty]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/27/alabama-pregnant-woman-shot-manslaughter-ch

How on earth can a woman who was pregnant be charged whilst her assailant goes free?

I've got my thoughts but will wait to see if anything more is reported.

At first sight, seems reprehensible.

[albaqwerty]

sorry, hope this link will behave
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/27/alabama-pregnant-woman-shot-manslaughter-charge-marshae-jones?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2XkAaflclriuKj0bDzkHR4RDDPr2Nlsy2lYl3uV4wtFPnCPd86RUGwgrg#Echobox=1561672289

[shoota]

I can see the logic - if she hadn't initiated or continued the fight then she wouldn't have suffered the wounds that killed her child therefore her actions caused the death.
I can also see why the assailant wasn't charged - she was acting in self defence.
But it does seem extremely harsh and perverse to proceed against this woman under laws made to outlaw abortion, which is a voluntary act entered into deliberately...
Only in America.

[Spicerack]

Should be an interesting case. Perhaps she had a knife, perhaps she had stabbed the shooter. Like I say, should be interesting.

[wolf63]

Like Shoota I can see how they managed to get to their final decision. Look at the whole thing as an Onion and peel away the layers. It is bizarre but some of the laws in the US are downright odd.

[Cloverjo]

WTAF? Not just the politicians in USA, but the responses here.
I honestly can’t believe what I’m reading from ABers so far this morning.

[wolf63]

Cloverjo
Our laws would never get this crazy - I hope.

I don't agree with the decision to charge the mother but, following the rules of their (twisted) law I can see how they got there.

[Spicerack]

Mind your language, Clover. Wouldn't want to lose your valuable input if the mods, by some freak of nature, started applying the rules fairly and evenly.

[ummmm]

What rule has Jo broken?

[Spicerack]

Swearing, ummmm. I thought I made that abundantly clear in my post.
Got any views (of your own) on the story?

[Cloverjo]

I assume Spicerack means the F word implied, even though I didn’t actually use the word itself.
The rest of my post still stands.

[ummmm]

Hardly swearing!

Yes...I think it's completely nuts.

[Rockrose]

Its bull!! But doesn't surprise me tbh given the leadership and what they are voting through!

[naomi24]

If that story is reported accurately it's crazy.

[KARL]

As a reaction to an argument, which is by definition verbal (no physical contact between the two has been reported, at least that I know of), is it in any way reasonably described as self defence to shoot someone ? Even if physical contact without any form of weapon had been involved ? Even if the opponent had had a weapon.......unless this was in the USA where carrying guns is approved of both socially and by the law ? Does anyone in authority over there ponder over what is good for society, or is that too much mental effort to be expected ?

[pixie374]

Insane.

[Spicerack]

^Lot of 'ifs' there, Karl. Bearing in mind the Guardian is as reliable for news as the aBBC, I'd suggest you wait for the trial.

[chelle7272]

Bit more info given here
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/pregnant-woman-shot-alabama-manslaughter-jones-jemison

[dannyk13]

One report says she was shot in the stomach fives times the other says once?