Doctor Who Gave Patient

[emmie]

ten times the dose of diamorphine in UK is suing one of the sons
for heckling him at an event. What is shocking about this case, is not just this man is allowed to work again, but that the case for which he was tried in UK will not by law be held on record in Germany, where he has returned.
why would that be the case?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542430/Killer-GP-sues-son-victim-heckling-speech-meaning-forced-abandon-event.html

[emmie]

from the link. its bizarre.

Now disgraced Ubani – who can still practise in Germany, where mention of his role in Mr Gray’s death is forbidden under strict ‘data protection’ laws – is demanding almost 3,400 euros, equivalent to £2,800 compensation.

[youngmafbog]

All is equal in the great EU, except if you are British and the other party is the senior member and boss of the EUSSR.

[emmie]

do you find it odd as i do that no record of what he did will show up where he now works, or has returned to work. He effectively killed the father and the poor sons have to live with that fact, not to mention one son goes to the event and now the doctor is suing him because he was heckled.

[LazyGun]

This paragraph from the article explains the situation around Urbani and the fact that he can still work in Germany, doesn't it?

"But the doctor had returned to Germany and a deal was reached under which he was sentenced there – receiving a nine-month suspended jail term and fine for a lesser charge of causing death by medical negligence.
He was banned from practising in the UK after being struck off by the General Medical Council.
However, Ubani has been able to continue working in Germany because, although the country’s equivalent of the GMC would like him to be banned, doctors are licensed by their local council."

It seem to me that the German system of oversight of conduct/licensing of doctors is in need of urgent reform.

[888]

set the daleks onto him

[emmie]

urgent reform indeed, i was quite frankly shocked at this, surely if he is working within the EU then the guidelines should apply across the board, struck off from the GMC, but can still practice elsewhere, it's bizarre

[emmie]

not sure that's right, but the other matter is that he is going to sue one of the sons who resides in Germany because he was heckled, beggars belief.

[Peter Pedant]

Emmie this is actually quite a complex question ( a landlord writes )

when Mr Gray died - the coroner found a verdict of manslaughter
but under the coroners rules 1974 as amended cannot name names.

I cant find out whether Dr Ubani was convicted of manslaughter by gross negligence which is the appropriate charge - he may NOT have been

Goggle ubani manslaughter and you will find Prof Brazier of Manchester thouth a charge of corporate manslaughter against the employer was appropriate but was NOT brought

Dr Ubani was also struck off the (British) Medical Register

and the big questions is.. . .. if you are struck off in London should you also be struck off in Paris, Lyon and Marseille ? Madree y Lisboa ?

Obviously the GMC says yes
but I have to say that the tide seems to be going out on that one.
For example, how would the rules on doctors screwing their ex-patients go down in France where there seems to be a law that everyone has to have a mistress.....and if she has a runny nose you are liable to be struck off......

Oddly enough Ubani was prosecuted in Germany for the British case....
and also had a case with his regulator


and the current German Law is that the case cannot be mentioned
so it looks as tho Davaid gray will go to Heaven
and his sons will go to prison

You asked me how this was the case
not if I approved....

[emmie]

from my link,
if this is remotely true, why is he practising medicine anywhere

" German police documents later showed neither the university where Ubani claimed to have studied nor the state examination office had a record of his ever having sat the state medical exam.

[Peter Pedant]

.
The system used to be in London - that the universities were basically registered with the GMC. I think probably the EU universities have a right by reason of being in the EU to be registered. (that is the universities themselves)

and if not on the LIST then you had to take an exam called PLAB.

Once you are registered somewhere in EU you can stop being registered in London. So basically an MD Paris Huitieme is the same as MB BS Lond.

Separate regs cover EU grads who have graduated from outside the EU (like a Dutch student from pretoria) AND
graduates of an EU institution who are not EU nationals ( Russians with a Lisbon degree )

You may think it is NOT the function of a London regulator to track down and harry ALbanian nationals who studied medicine in Berline and are now in Athens. I do - I think it is a waste of time and money