What's the point?

[MURKY]

I am 14. I was just wondering what is the point for my generation to live past 25? We are doomed to die before our parents, slave to money, victims of society, will have to work hard for money which will not even buy a house because the property market is sky high. I have no disorders such as depression and I am intelligent. I just don't see the reason for youth to grow up. I have also been taught that love only exists as lust and that the fairytale version simply does not. Quite sad really...

[johntheplamf]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeell, let me see here. The only reason they reckon you won't live past 25, is because of the diet of youngsters nowadays, so, cut out the junk food and excercise. You say you're intelligent, so stick in at school and you'll be able to afford a house. And as for the love bit, after you've been laying off the junk food, all the ladies?guy's will be flocking to you, instead of the guy eating the pies in the corner, simple, huh?? Still, wouldn't take my advice, as i'm very, very drunk:O)

[Scarlett]

I think every generation has the same problem- but with different specific problems! Why give birth to 10 kids when 8 will die from rubella/skirvy/the plague? Why go to school when you KNOW you will only be working down the mine with your Dad for the rest of your life? Why bother doing anything when the rich/poor divide is so huge that I will only ever be a skivvy for a rich family?

We have SO much more now than our ancestors ever did. You have the KNOWLEDGE about what is healthy and what is not- don't eat rubbish and don't smoke, or yes, you will die early! You may not get a house right now, but it is only a matter of time before the government bring in solutions to this problem, like 100 year mortgages (lots of other countries have them) or buying a share in a house and the building society having the other. Love does exist, it always has and always will. That is not an issue for today.

Today you have more opportunities than ever before. It is possible to become anything you want, travel anywhere, take gap years; women are basically equal to men, it is not frowned upon if you stay single and choose not to have kids. The world is your oyster! Be GRATEFUL you have it all at your fingertips. Get out there and make the most of it!!!

[beerbelly]

well my young whippersnapper let me tell you a thing or two about life ...........you only get out of it what you put into it ......
whats the point ....? who cares . just enjoy ,
as for love / lust.......who cares . just enjoy ,

as you say ,..quite sad really , but were stuck with it ....!!!

[shaneystar]

Life is what you make it..and at fourteen and in today's society I suppose it all looks a bit gloomy. This will soon pass I can assure you .Your generation has many more opportunities than mine ever did so get out there and make the most of it. You appear to have your health and strength so to quote someone you have probably never heard of "You've got the whole world in your hands".And...in the future when you sit there with a lovely wife/husband and children in the home you have worked for and hopefully in a job that you like you will be able to say it was all worth it.

[VINNY100_2]

Scarlett.I could'nt have put it better myself...(:)murky it was a lot harder when I was a kid in the fifties.i shared a bed with one brother and a sister.the bloody house was freezing .The first person to wake up in the morning got to get the last piece of bread.we all sat around on a sunday afternoon huddled up with my old dads army coat on us with a couple of pieces of coal on the fire, watching some old cowboy film in black &white,and the springs in the settee were sticking up.quite painfull unless you sat at the end but then you wouldnt be so warm.Half way through the night the electric would go,and my old man would be shoving a long sharp knife in to the meter...turning the knob just right and then we would have lecky for a few more hours.going to school with holes in yer  boots,(they would have to last at least a year)no we didnt have a lot to eat..thank god for school meals...I use to clean the tables after school dinners and you would nick any roast spuds and put them in your pocket and take them home and hide them in your bedroom.yes it was tough but at the time we didnt think it was that bad.xmas was great..2 prezzys.normally one of those traffic light torches.and a rupert annual,and a   stocking full of fruit..sheer heaven..!!but through all this we still thought we had a great childhood.we'd be out till all times of the night kicking the ball around.we would sit in the kitchen on a friday night while me dad played the harmonica and got pi$$ed,we loved it.never ever be pesimistic about the future ,you have got your whole life ahead of you.look forward to the future,dont be afraid of it.(:)

[jodie1404]

well im 16, and see where MURKY is coming from, problem is, is that u dont actually realise just how good you've got it! the problems your looking at there arent even problems compared to what some people go through, i've had a terrible evryone else has managed so im sure u will too! and your only 14 and its a long time before u need to start worrying bout those things, you should be enjoying your life and be glad that you've got what you've got!

[shaneystar]

Vinny you have evoked the years of bread and scrape and outside toilets to a T. Rupert annuals and a tangerine.
Turning the mangle in a freezing cold scullery. One tin bath on a Friday night for five people.
Murky...you don't know how good you have it today!! Get out there and get on with it !!!

[Aschenbach]

So far you've got the 'grass is always greener' answers

Based entirely on your post, I think you are reaching an emotional maturity at a young age. You recognise a distinction between depresion and a depressing outlook.
Most of your peers won't be asking themselves the same questions you are. Although I think it is very healthy to ponder your future it may lead you to become alienated from 'happy-go-lucky types.

At the age of about 15, for the first time in my life I would stay awake at night thinking about the same things you are now. You won't be able to turn off these worries but are better off for the awareness and understanding they bring.

No one can tell you what the point is or if there is one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurd

[VINNY100_2]

Murky,I hope you take everybodys point of view in this thread and digest it.its better to have different points of view taken into consideration than just one. Its easy to say they were just grass is greener posts,but some of us have actually lived through them(:)

[curiosity]

I think you're thinking too much Murky, and your dialogue leads me to believe either you're not 14 or you hang around adults a lot, try not to worry about these things, cos the day will come when there is a point and you have to do something about it. You weren't as articulate in your post about childrens books, oh and love does exist outside of lust.

[MURKY]

Thank you for your opinions. I worry about this now and theres no changing that. Oh I am 14, I have to say I become more articulate when I feel expressive in an emotional way. The book topic is a homework project therefore a bore on the brain. I am glad of the reassurance that love does exist outside of love as this is one of the main points that bothered me. For example; everyday people will say that the most important aspect of life is love. Of course if love doesn't exist and it is only lust that it is sad.

[dyli795]

 

        To experience life is the the most wonderful thing in exhistance, (please write back immediately if I'm wrong)   - Every life is unique. Good luck always helps but if there is a shortage of that then the failsafe way to counteract that shortage is to try a bit harder to improve your lot and you'll then see the true meaning of good luck occuring because you increse its chances of coming through.  I know it's not a lot of help, but you'll find your outlook changes gradualy through time.

Please be thankful for the most wonderful gift in the universe, and make the most of it, it's free.

[ICEMANSAV]

You know MURKY, I thought the same at 14, I am 25 now. I used to think about all the problems in modern day society and how I would cope with the pressures of everday life as I got older. The basic answer is that feelings of this nature are quite common at your age, your mental maturity is passing from boyhood to manhood, things are looking more frightening as the scope of the world that you view has increased. You are no longer shielded by the love of mum and dad and you wish to start your lifes journey on your own yet find the gap scary and threatening. I know you are 14, but from your very articulate post your intellect is not to be doubted, yet hormones etc. are racing round and your head will be full of thoughts. Love is still around, dismiss the tabloid scandals, and if it is a parental situation then your life can be different, love and lust can be part and parcel of one, and once you find that everything else won't seem half as bad.

[spudqueen]

Don't despair and NEVER give up on life. When I was your age we were supposed to be entering a mini ice-age where the ground would be so hard we wouldn't be able to grow anything to eat and oil would run out by the year 2000. Now it's 2005, there's still oil and far from being a mini ice-age we've now got global warming! No matter what life throws at us (wars, terrorism attacks, tsumanis, deadly diseases) the human races plods on through and comes out the other end. Look at the people who lived through the First World War, not only did they lose nearly a whole generation of men and found that new terrors had been unleashed on the world (this was the first 'modern' war) but then they had the Spanish Flu which killed even more people than the war. But they didn't give up, they just got on with their lives. Oh, and I dispute that love only exists as lust, I'm married to the most wonderful person who I LOVE (ok, so sometimes it's lust,), but it's definately LOVE, and I wouldn't change my life for anything. Concentrate on today, doing your school work etc and doing your bit for the planet (recycling, switching lights off etc) and before you know it you'll be grown up, madly in love and owning your own house and wondering what you worried about!