Anorexia Vs Morbid Obesity

[Rockrose]

Watching a programme anorexic ladies I am struck by how these ladies are treated with sympathy and caring and how there is help out there for them. But when it comes to obesity you are told to eat less and move more and are treated with complete derision.

[retrocop]

OK just re read hc's post. Missed that.

[nailit]

Not often that we see eye to eye but food addiction is just as much an illness as anorexia.

[woofgang]

rockrose you are absolutely right. The people who I met didn't want to be the way that they were. What I am saying is that bariatric surgery even with excellent post op support often didn't work because it didn't address the root of the problem.

[AuntLydia]

"anorexic ladies' males can get anorexia too. Just saying..
You as a morbidly obese person,may have been treated with derision, but I have friends who have been supported within the NHS and encouraged, including counselling and dietary advice.
Maybe advising someone morbidly obese to 'eat less' is the first step I'm sure they tell Anorexics to 'eat more' as part of their treatment.

[Rockrose]

Aunt Lydia perhaps if you read the whole thread you will see I mentioned men but as the program I was watching was just following women that’s why I mentioned women.
Good for your ‘friends’ but I can assure you that seeing a dietician will not help the morbidly obese

[AuntLydia]

I am very aware seeing a dietitian will not help the morbidly obese for the simple reason fat people do not want to be told to eat less. Before you jump down my throat, Anorexics don't want to be told TO eat. Because food intake or withdrawal is about control not appetite.
You made a blanket statement about morbidly obese not getting any help. I contradicted that by saying people I know had had help that included counselling and the help of a dietitian. INCLUDING being the key word as in 'part' of the help. Not everyone is in a position to have a private operation to stop them stuffing themselves (for whatever reason) and I think the NHS do more than their best and should not be dishonored for it.
Don't make assumptions I did not read the whole thread. I was commenting on your OP.

[retrocop]

//Not everyone is in a position to have a private operation to stop them stuffing themselves (for whatever reason) and I think the NHS do more than their best and should not be dishonored for it. //

Mmmm. AL. Pretty fair assessment I think.

[Rockrose]

‘Stuffing their faces’
Wow you really are a lovely person!

[naomi24]

Rockrose, but a lot of fat people do stuff their faces. I recall someone on here who was obese talking about their favourite meal – something like pasta, cheese and chips. Anyone who eats food like that must know that it’s not conducive to healthy eating or to weight loss. There’s enough information out there.

[Peter Pedant]

Anorexia is really rare in men - it is usually something else (depression)

sorry to inject a bit of reality into this thread

[ummmm]

Stuffing their faces? What a horrible term.

[naomi24]

Some do stuff their faces. Reality, ummmm, albeit an unpleasant one..

[ummmm]

I wouldn't say that.

My sister and niece are obese and they don't stuff their faces. They have an issue with portion control.

[douglas9401]

Comedy gold ummmm.

[SparklyKid]

"Portion control" Lol, you could not make it up.

[naomi24]

^ :o)

[ummmm]

It's true though. If I went to my sister for dinner she'd eat twice as much as me.

[BagPussAA]

One of the issues surrounding obesity and the NHS is that the only help that is offered is surgery. I am obese and would love to be able to do something about it but I have a problem with comfort eating that relates to my Social Anxiety and Aspergers. When I approached my doctor for assistance and was told that no help was available as I was not over weight enough for surgery and no mental health options were offered for obesity. I do not want the surgery really but just some help with unhealthy relationship with food. Once I have conquered that, I will be able to lose weight on my own.

[ummmm]

Badpuss - Do you think it should be treated as anorexia is?

I do.

[BANANASPLITS]

Ummmm a classic lol
Having said that food addiction is not funny at all!!