Covid Wish It Wld Finish!

[eve1974]

Covid covid covid. Sick (no pun) of How Covid has altered our lives worldwide. I, (like many) kinda thought world wld have a grip on it by now (naively) but I’m finally realising that it’s here for a long time yet!

[Sqad]

Parsley

///ParsleyDumplingWe have seen a huge surge in positive tests, but not the resultant hospital admissions and deaths. //
Admissions
Give it time, numbers of deaths and admissions at the end of November will be the significant time to comment.
My guess will be a marked and an increasing rising number of both.

[weecalf]

I’ve said it afore I’ve said it in Brighton

[Deskdiary]

Possibly Sqad, but is that reason enough to continue to screw the economy?

I don’t think it is.

[Sqad]

Deskdiary....i don't know and fortunately it us not our call.

[fiction-factory]

>FF - if you’re going to bandy about completely unsubstantiated numbers , that were merely worst case scenario guesstimates at the start , then you do have to justify them.

That would be funny, DD- that is if you find the current figure of 400000-60000 deaths funny or think it's fake news. 5-10%% of UK citizens have had Covid so far and over 60000 excess deaths have occurred. Does it not occur to you that the figure might be a lot higher by the time infection rates get to the 60% needed for herd immunity.
The ignorance and arrogance of some people on AB is unbelievable.

[dave50]

The economy is now far more important than a few covid deaths.

[fiction-factory]

So which bits of the economy need to change/be opened up more, dave? Can yo suggest some specific things that should be done?

[fiction-factory]

21:25 should have said "40000 -60000 deaths..."

[woofgang]

"So which bits of the economy need to change/be opened up more, dave? Can yo suggest some specific things that should be done?"
also which people does dave not mind seeing die?

[Deskdiary]

94.2% of the deaths have have had an underlying ailment for their deaths FF. As sad as it is, the vast majority of those were also old.

Do the maths.

[fiction-factory]

And, DD? So what point are you trying to make?

[Sqad]

ff what they are trying to say is let the old die to save the economy, but they are scared to spell it out

[fiction-factory]

Even if they spelled it out, sqad, I'm interested to know what they think needs to be done to save the economy. Shops are open, pubs are open, restaurants are open, businesses are open, decorators and plumbers are working, doctors and solicitors are working, hotels are open, trains are running, people are going on holiday here and abroad

[Sqad]

ff....lol...it is obvious, they want the economy spared at the cost of deaths of the elderly and by squad's definition that is herd immunity.......b.l.cks to 60%.

[fiction-factory]

I think I agree with you sqad. If we let Covid run riot unchecked for a few months in selected places such as care homes and cancer, cornry care wards, and organised Covid parties for all the overweight, diabetics, BAMEs and over 55s so as to wipe out the weakest, I reckon the rest would largely survive and herd immunity wouldn't be an issue any more.

[Deskdiary]

The point I’m making, ff, is obvious, but I’ll say it anyway.

The economy is more important than old people being allowed to die.

I don’t like saying it - but it’s the truth.

[fiction-factory]

I can see that letting a few tens of thousands of old /ill people die might save us some money in care, welfare and pension costs. But what specifically would you do that would make a significant improvement to the economy? I actually prefer supermarkets, pubs and restaurants now with more distancing and table service, so I'm actually boosting the hospitality more than I used to.

[gulliver1]

Of course the Economy is far more Important than a load of OAPs Dying. How else could the MPs get paid their expenses , from the tax payer ?.

[ParsleyDumpling]

ff, people are already dying from cancer, because they are not getting screening, diagnosis and treatment. This is because the NHS seems to have stopped treating anything other than Covid. I have repeatedly asked is that acceptable? A lot more people are dying due to causes other than Covid, and because the management of Covid seems to have made all other illness "invisible" I suppose, that is alright, though, as long as we can control the virus, (although it's not that which is causing the huge majority of deaths). So yes I maybe a Covidiot, but at least I am not blinkered to the damage being done, in most of the other areas of our health, society and well being (physical and mental).

[fiction-factory]

I was asking about the economy which is the issue DD raised so I'm not sure why you directed your post on cancer and other treatments at me. If you want to to talk about something else, you go ahead parsley but I'm off to bed