First Baby

[tamborine]

Niece 25y 1st baby by forceps. Niece stitched too far & later repaired. Baby caught infection at nieces repair time & now has fits. Have you medics come across similar.

[bednobs]

is it strep b?

[calmck]

How old is baby now? What was the infection and what antibiotics? How often are the fits and what are they like? Does baby have fever with the fits? Did niece have infection too? How old was baby when this happened?

[jno]

how did "Baby caught infection at nieces repair time" come about?

[Sqad]

//////Niece stitched too far & later repaired. ////
No big deal.

//////Baby caught infection at nieces repair time & now has fits./////

Too early to say if this indicates a big deal or not.
The fits could be due to brain damage following a difficult forceps delivery.
The fits certainly could be due to an infection .
There are also many other causes and it is a matter of treating the infection and then waiting to see what happens.

//////Have you medics come across similar.///
No.

[bednobs]

it must be incidental - they dont repair till the baby comes out

[anneasquith]

Sorry, I’m confused by the question .

[barry1010]

Are you thinking that by cutting the mother during delivery the mother got infected and the bleeding passed this infection to the baby whilst the baby was being born?

Or that the delivery was so difficult that the hard use of forceps caused an infection and / or brain injury?

Did the baby get an infection when the mother was being repaired some time after the birth?

[tamborine]

Post natal inspection of babe (2+ week) mother in pain from vagina. Nurse said vagina needs stitches removed in the practice, not home. mum takes healthy baby with her to practice & baby now has fits. Baby on antibiotics. Mum can only sit on rubber ring.

I dont know med termanology but this is how sis explained to me. The stitching is like tightening a vagina.

[tamborine]

stitching was like tightening......

[Peter Pedant]

fits under the age of six months is common/not unknown
Paeds are full of it
stay with the Paed
as the gt sqad says - not connected to infected over-repair

easy stuff: Common causes of neonatal fits include hypoxic ischaemic encephalopathy, intracranial haemorrhage, intracranial infections, congenital cerebral malformations, metabolic disorders, and focal ischaemic stroke.12 Sep 2012 BMJ


Jean Aicardi for example wrote 2 000 pages on it ( no really)
Diseases of the Nervous System in Childhood
by Jean Aicardi

top of the list is hypoxia at birth
it has a particular distribution on MRI scan (PVL)
and so you may discuss that with the paed ( who will NOT have delivered the baby if you get my meaning)

and I dont care if all and every ABer says
foo wot all dis mean?

[Peter Pedant]

// Sorry, I’m confused by the question .//
well then you certainly wont understand my answer

sort of they go together - in short - - foo foo question and goo goo answer

[tamborine]

thanx all & PP - will pass on info

[calmck]

Has the baby had a blood test or spinal tap to confirm infection. Cannot see how baby got infection by being with mum when stitches removed. What infection do they day the baby has. What sort of “fit “ is the baby having. Too many unknowns to offer advice. I was a NICU nurs.

[tamborine]

Baby Leo never had fits before mum's re-stitching procedure. Mum was in one room for the work & separated from Leo, which she found v.distressing. The nurse said Leo had caught a virus in the practise.

[tamborine]

by practise I mean doctors surgery.

[bednobs]

how would the nurse know? does the baby have a paediatrician?

[calmck]

Antibiotics are not usually given for a virus

[calmck]

What sort of fit is the baby having. I would suggest a visit to a paediatrician for full examination. Baby should not be on antibiotics without knowing where and what the infection is

[tamborine]

gma has arrived from Cornwall (4hr journey). Will add more when I know. Its too upsetting for all. 'kin genetal mutilation in NHS - am furious!

[Peter Pedant]

// Too many unknowns to offer advice. I was a NICU nurs.//

calmk - the child is fitting under one month of age and hasnt seen a paed yet - clearly there is a lot we havent been told .....
I mean ... alot