Well It Seems To Be Working Well Then

[Samuraisan]

The NHS, envy of the world
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9133765/Coronavirus-UK-Doctors-throw-away-Covid-vaccine-doses-patient-no-shows.html

[Sqad]

What do you expect, it is unfortunately how some of the British public respond to an out of control viral pandemic?

[anneasquith]

If this article is totally accurate, shame on the organisers. Gather 100 people into a room, demonstrate how to give the vaccination, collect your doze go home and administer it. Diabetics give their own injections, some give themselves hormones, anticoagulants, surely some of us could administer our own . ?

[Arrods]

Shame on you - the 'no shows'.

[Ken4155]

Many of the Covid vaccine sites have been chosen because of their capacity to accommodate lots of patients, not for their easy access. The NHS cannot be held responsible for the weather, the IT problems nor the non-attendance of some booked in for their jabs. And i would assume that the vaccines, once opened, would have to be used within a certain time limit or disposed of.

[Smowball]

I’m still baffled as to why they closed junior and secondary schools, and colleges, but kept nursery schools open. And kept children’s playgrounds open, which are obviously all full of adults with the kids. Makes no sense to me.

[237SJ]

It's not the NHS's fault that people aren't turning up.

[Vagus]

I’m pretty sure many of us could do our own actual injection, Ann, what we can’t do is react appropriately to any potentially serious side effect from it.

[AuntPollyGrey]

The vaccine has to be kept at a certain temperature. One could not get the vaccine then take it home to administer. I give myself injections twice a month -its not difficult but the injections have to be kept at 3C up until 30 minutes before I inject myself.

[AuntPollyGrey]

https://www.pig333.com/3tres3_common/art/pig333/15466/live-vaccine_151628.jpg?w=820&q=1

[New Judge]

//Shame on you - the 'no shows'.//

//It's not the NHS's fault that people aren't turning up.

I know this may sound incredible, but there is always the possibility that they did not receive their invitation. It's been known to happen. A few months back Mrs NJ got a letter inviting her to a hospital some miles away for an out-patients' appointment. She had nothing wrong with her, had not visited her GP and had not asked for an appointment for anything. Being the good citizen that she is she phoned the hospital to explain the mistake, hoping that the real patient could be contacted in time. An abridged version of what was discussed follows:

"Oh! Can't you make it then?"

"Er...I probably could but it would be a waste of everybody's time as I've nothing wrong with me."

"Oh. So you no longer need the appointment then?"

"I've never needed it. It isn't for me. There's been a mistake. I was telling you so that you might contact whoever it is meant for."

"Hold On. I'll check the system."

[Short pause with keyboard tapping audible]

"It's definitely in your name, Mrs NJ. Are you sure you didn't request an appointment?"

I'll end the tale here as the last time Mrs NJ was asked by a medic if she "was sure" about something was when she'd broken her arm. The quack at the "fracture clinic" was examining an X-Ray of somebody's broken ankle and he asked her if she was sure it wasn't her ankle that was broken. Her response to that (and the question above) is not fit for a family audience.

So mistakes do happen. And apparently the "IT System" which is being used to run this programme is not particularly robust. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if a number of the "no shows" were actually "not inviteds".

[Arrods]

Fair enough NJ there will be the 'genuine' no shows. But a local GP published each week in the non-Convid/non flu season the number of no shows. I would guess the majority were people who'd actually called the surgery in the first place to book an appointment.

[Peter Pedant]

you get your no show rate
and over book to that extent

god it is not rocket science - airlines do it routinely

[david small]

The NHS where I live sucks, is pants, not fit for parrots, unless dead.

[Peter Pedant]

// The quack at the "fracture clinic" was examining an X-Ray of somebody's broken ankle //

when that happened to me, and the operative opined
I dont know what you are talking about
there was a letter to the chief exec telling him exactly WHAT I was talking about
and he agreed that it was a "never event" that um should never have occurred.
(concerned radiotherapy)

[bednobs]

i reckon they should send the injection round to people's houses in chauffer driven limos. WOuld that suit the mail?

[jno]

Excel is by the river, and it really does get cold there. A shame they couldn't have set aside a bit of space indoors (it's pretty vast) for oldies to queue.

[dave50]

Virtual house arrest and destruction of the economy so the NHS doesn't have too many patients.

[Paigntonian]

I'm always non-plussed about this NHS being the 'envy of the world' stuff. I've worked in several countries and I don't recall bodies laying on the streets for lack of healthcare in Denmark, Germany, France, Italy, The Netherlands and so on. No axe to grind but it's a bit daft.

[Paigntonian]

The terrible, unspoken, truth is that, when it comes to health outcomes, our NHS is not wonderful at all.

[bobbinwales]

//Virtual house arrest //
Are you in North Korea?Here in UK the roads are busy, loads of people out walking dogs and exercising. Our stores as busy as ever. This afternoon we passed a primary school and there were loads of kids being picked up- a doubt they were all children of key workers.