Well It Seems To Be Working Well Then

[Samuraisan]

The NHS, envy of the world
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9133765/Coronavirus-UK-Doctors-throw-away-Covid-vaccine-doses-patient-no-shows.html

[bobbinwales]

Its easy to find where things arent going as smoothly as we'd like Samurasian and there will be problems with missed appointments, queues , supply hold ups as vaccinnations are been done a ta rate never done before but am not sure why your focusing on those negatives rather than the much bigger posatives -we'er racing ahead of other countries and are making good progress this week towards an ambitious target

[New Judge]

//I'm always non-plussed about this NHS being the 'envy of the world' stuff.//

It never has been the envy of the world. Many countries do far better. Upon its inception in 1948 the NHS inherited 10 beds per 1,000 of the population. Successive administrations have presided over a reduction of that figure until today it stands at less than two. Meanwhile Japan has 13, Germany 10 and France 6.

In that same time the bureaucracy has expanded exponentially, the numbers of managers and assorted bean counters have expanded in inverse proportion to the number of beds. If the NHS is being overwhelmed by anything, it is by bureaucracy. Nothing illustrates that more than the vaccine programme.

[Paigntonian]

New Judge: Absolutely. We go on and on about the NHS just like the Americans go on and on that they're the last, best hope for mankind. It's pathetic.

[pixie374]

NJ, I know I have said this before... but we spend an awful lot of time just cancelling appointments for those who don't want or need them. People will generally contact someone if there is a problem... Often they are to review a medication that someone has been on for decades without a problem.
But, it seems, the majority of automatic appointments just aren't needed, so there is less space for people who are actually unwell.

[jourdain2]

I support Paigntonian here - the doctors and nurses are generally really great, but as for the NHS organisation itself, it is simply not fit for purpose. I've had the reasons explained to me many times and many reasons given - a favourite is 'consultants are brought in to improve efficiency so they have to do something - but it doesn't fit with what is already there'. Root and branch reform is desperately needed.

Like Mrs NJ, Mr J2 received on Sat. 2nd Jan 2021, a letter from Hull giving him an appointment at the eye hospital on Tuesday 5/1/21. It had been written on 23rd Dec. and postmarked 29th Dec.. It was impossible to keep the appointment as it clashed with his 2nd Covid vaccination in Malton. So on Monday 4th Jan, we took it in turns to keep ringing the number given so that the appt. could be offered to someone else. What a waste of time that was! I spent 2hrs.54mins. on the phone. Every time I got a dial tone, someone cut-off the call. I rang another number at the hospital and was assured that the switchboard personnel were working so to carry on trying. We gave up at 5.30 p.m. and sent a letter by recorded delivery next day..... guess what? Not a contact. So it goes both ways. There was no email address offered either, by the way.

[Atheist]

NJ, it's another lazy trope to call managers bean counters. There are rude names that could be applied to you judges (traitors was one), and all these labels are completely unfair.

[pixie374]

Is NJ a judge?

[jno]

lol, judgmental maybe

[pixie374]

Lol I wasn't trying to be rude... I've never seen him claim to be one. We have several usernames with "professor", "doctor" etc... and most clearly aren't really.

[dave50]

Sick of the worshiping of the NHS, our beloved NHS, its nauseating.

[Atheist]

Pixie, I'm a simple soul, and from NJ's contributions I presumed he had something to do with the judiciary. I'm easily taken in - too trusting? Now you've tipped me off, I realise at last that you're nothing to do with the caring services LOL.

[bednobs]

neither am i a bed knob

[jno]

I always thought you were a Hobnob who couldn't spell

[Paigntonian]

It is nauseating Dave 50 and I agree New Judge. At one stage in my working life, I endured a temporary contract with the Selby and York NHS Trust as a PR guy. It was utterly surreal. I was there to make the chief exec look good. There were people with job descriptions that were unfathomable (even to themselves) like Head of Strategic Resources. I did enquire if that had anything to do with hospitals and was told that it was not. Six weeks into the job there were management consultants in the building and they decided I needed a 15 percent pay rise. Mad.

[nailit]

//Sick of the worshiping of the NHS, our beloved NHS, its nauseating//

Now I would clap for that.

The past year of trying to get any kind of treatment/comfort/care for a dying woman has been abysmal.
Got Covid? Lets get you in and ventilated, ''There, thats better isnt it?''

Got Cancer?
F off!
''Dont you know that we have a pandemic''?

[fcc]

^^ ^^
So true,every other illness gets put on the back burner.

[bobbinwales]

^ completely untrue. Depends on the urgency. Your not tuned away if your about to give birth or had a heart attack or seriously injured in an accident or have sheduled urgent cancer treatment.

[TonyV]

Had similar after starting with GP comment "you need to go to A & E, after ambulance call paramedic sent comment " you need to go to A & E " after making own way to A & E and waiting comment " your GP is dealing with this contact them" A complete waste of resources and time.

[fcc]

bobinwales,check out the cancer research uk website,they say MILLIONS of potentially life saving scans have had to be cancelled for
all efforts to be given to covid.

[eve1974]

Paigntonian - I disagree. I think compared to many other countries NHS is amazing. It simply depends which country / part of the world you are referring to. I have lived in Africa...trust me NHS is awesome!