how does it make you feel

[wonder years]

thease days when i listen to myself i think i sound quite racist, were i live we did not have a very large population of muslims, but that has defintily risen we now have a newly built mousqe and one of the halha butchers, i dont mean i think n.i.m.b.y. its just since all thease terrorist incidents its hard to be so none judgemental, i try to think not all the same or its only so many, we have a powerstation just up the road and i think if that went up i would too maybe its only human nature to think like this but somtimes even though i admit i do it makes me a bit uncomfortable

[sandyg2244]

I know what you mean, and I know what you mean by it making you uncomfortable.I wasn't brought up to be a racist but I find myself beginning to have really strong views about these muslims and the way they have so much contempt for us but happily take advantage of our freedom of speech and economy.I have had these views since 9/11 and a muslim worker stood up and made her way to the kitchen to noisily take her break during the silence we gave in respects to 9/11/the fact is, they know they can say what they want, hold demonstrations with the pc-brigade on the British people's backs constantly.Look where it's got us for being so 'nice'. I have to wonder what this government we have are playing at.They wouldn't(and haven't ) put up with this crap in France!! Go to anyone of these IIslamic countries and and you have too abide by their laws, they come here to have a better life and WE have to watch our p's and Q's!I'm sorry but I for one am really angry, it was only a matter of time it happened again.

[Rock'n'Roll]

Why? did you feel uncomfortable when there was Irish catholics nearby? Most Muslims ,as The Irish are peace loving folk. We do have a large population of Muslims and I feel no concern whatsoever

[pinksmartie]

i think she/he ( sorry! i dont know :-) ) means thinking like that makes her feel uncomfortable.

[sandyg2244]

what does Irish Catholics have to do with anything???

[Rock'n'Roll]

They killed more Brits than the Muslims. They both have idiot followings. The comparison is; not all Irish catholics are IRA and not all Muslims are terrorists

[wonder years]

yes pinksmartie thats what i did mean, my thoughts make me feel un comfortable

[ummmm]

Rock n Roll
completely different.
England owns six county's in Eire. They tried to get them back. So far they've lost. There's a long running history between the two. Tell me what the english have done to irish over the last eight hundred years. Now tell us what the english have done to muslims?

[ummmm]

If you can't answer. Read some of Irelands history. I'm sure a google search will do.

[sandyg2244]

you know, i live in west central scotland.
I know what sectarianism does.I am not interested in it in the slightest.it's old hat, have not time for history.I'm more interested in what's happening here and now.The sort of hatred you have for old hat, i'm growing it right now for people who are posing a real threat to me and all around me here and now thanks very much!

[ummmm]

Sorry sandy. I actually agree with you. We are all humans. It's the minority that ruin things. But I do hate ignorance. You cannot compare what happened in England with the ira with what is happening now. Simple as! But we all want peace.

[sandyg2244]

you know umm or whatever you name is, you are just as bad.I have no time for you.no-one is intersted in your sectarian views in this discussion.tit for tat! a lot of lives were lost but i tell you, what we are facing today is a lot bigger and affects everyone of EVERY religion.no-one is interested in republican/loyalist causes apart from the small few.Thanfully there is some sort of peace at this moment.I dont/wont try to pretend i understand/and dont care what is was all about , I just know that religion makes seemingly intelligent people lose their ability to function in normal society.Everyone needs a cause, right?

[Im a BusyBee]

Religion is about creation not destruction and the people who decide to destroy life is just the devil hiding behind religion

[sandyg2244]

I totally agree with you I'm a busy bee!

[Pippa68]

I don't consider myself racist, but according to some I have racist views...mainly because of the immigration issue, which I have argued has nothing to do with racism at all (as I don't disagree with immigration per se).

I don't have a problem with the Muslim community ~ I embrace the Mosques,Halal butchers etc. What I do object to is the local community centre being changed into a Muslim womens centre ~ the playgroup had to finish in order for this which I found disturbing, to say the least.

[Pippa68]

cont:

I don't look at all Muslims as potential terrorists. I have worked with a fair few Muslims in my time, and have Muslim friends. One pal was born into a Muslim family but sent to a Christian school as his parents wanted him to grow as a 'tolerant' person.

[Pippa68]

Cont: again!

What does that say about them? it says what most Muslims say..peace & harmony is paramount in this life.

Fear breeds contempt, and I will try my darndest to make sure this doesn't happen to me or my family. If you feel threatened then the terrorists have won. I would suggest making your world a little bit bigger :o)

[Pippa68]

Sorry about that..AB wouldn't let me do a long one!

[whiffey]

I think that in the current climate it would be tactful and diplomatic to put on hold the building of a new huge 17 acre mosque in East London (where many of the arrests were).

[rugbyaddict]

Earlier post - What Have we done to Muslims?

Crusades ring any bells? Slaughtered thousands for calling God by the "wrong" name?

Allied ourselves to the ONLY nation to use nuclear warheads in anger, and that feel they have the right to police the use of such weapons in other countries?

Stood by and watched as the UN make a pig's dinner of the situation in the Middle East?

Oppressed every person with darker skin than the monarch as soon as they step foot into the country?

I'm white British, and am from Luton. 30% of my schoolmates were of ethnic minority. In my part time jobs in opticians, I was at times the only white employee.
I'm personally sick of this subtle discrimination, that can be as destructive and intimidating as BNP followers on marches.

It's one thing to have opinions, but making others listen to them is quite another. I don't condone violence of any kind (says the rugby playing infantryman.) I've seen first hand what these feelings lead to, and I sure as hell don't want to see it in the nation I swore to protect, and call home!