When my boys have a monumental paddy - and I'm talking only maybe three or four times a year here, the really bad ones - I will send them away from everyone else ie. to their rooms. They hate it, and normally won't go. They know, however, that if I have to take them, then I will smack them when we get there - a quick slap on the bottom or leg. I'm talking ABSOLUTE last resort. It's a "defining the boundaries" kind of thing. A "stepping over the line of acceptable behaviour" deterrent. I have probably done it once with 3 yr old and about four times for oldest.
Otherwise, we have a stone jar which was recommended by a child psychologist at work. One stone goes in for good behavior, or trying something new to eat (fussy eaters!) and one comes out for bad. It works like magic!! They can choose a treat when they get to ten stones, and the prospect of losing one makes them toe the line. I recommend it to ANYone with children!
They are smashing boys, loved to pieces by friends and family. One is "best mate" with two of the mums, who always say he is a joy to have.They have friends at school with too-strict parents, and some who rule the roost at home, with parents who are scared to keep them under control. These are the ones who I predict will be first off the rails!!
Mine are proper boys - rough and tumble, but kind and helpful. Noisy, shouty, dirty, mischievous little monkeys but they know right from wrong. If they stay this way, I will grow old knowing I did the right thing in having that last resort smack in reserve.
Agree with redcrx about the shouting and wailing being abuse in itself. I feel more guilty if I ever really shout - feels more like losing control than a measured smack on the bum!
(girlygirl2 - do what you feel is right for you and your daughter, but do try the stone jar when she's a bit older! Let her make a label and choose some flower arranging stones to collect in it. It