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It is to do with the pregnancy rate of young girls in Great Britain being the highest by a long chalk compared with other countries in Europe.
The monumental amount of money to take these usually unmarried young girls through their pregnancy, the Hospital costs, midwifery and Hospital beds, and then supporting them indefinitely with homes, finance and free services thereafter (prescripions, free school meals and any other health requirements that arise from that pregnancy) is becoming astronomical.
You only have to watch something like "Jeremy Vile" , sorry I mean "Kyle" to see examples, for instance yesterday a sixteen year old boy had got two girls pregnant, the outcome being three children while he is still at school. He is not with either of the two mothers one of whom has two children from him which the government has to keep. There would be more money left for Hospital beds, shorter waiting lists for the rest of us, more housing available, more money for pensioners and disability help where it is needed etc and now they are cutting grants for further education. What is the solution? I have some ideas......
The monumental amount of money to take these usually unmarried young girls through their pregnancy, the Hospital costs, midwifery and Hospital beds, and then supporting them indefinitely with homes, finance and free services thereafter (prescripions, free school meals and any other health requirements that arise from that pregnancy) is becoming astronomical.
You only have to watch something like "Jeremy Vile" , sorry I mean "Kyle" to see examples, for instance yesterday a sixteen year old boy had got two girls pregnant, the outcome being three children while he is still at school. He is not with either of the two mothers one of whom has two children from him which the government has to keep. There would be more money left for Hospital beds, shorter waiting lists for the rest of us, more housing available, more money for pensioners and disability help where it is needed etc and now they are cutting grants for further education. What is the solution? I have some ideas......
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Oh gawd, here we go......the rant against single mums is about to begin. Funny how single dads don't have the same sl@gging off even if they claim benefits.
This subject always brings out the idiots who would advocate stealing the newborns from these girls and have them adopted by middle class childless couples, or have all girls forcibly sterilised (temporarily or otherwise) until they marry an employed man.
This subject always brings out the idiots who would advocate stealing the newborns from these girls and have them adopted by middle class childless couples, or have all girls forcibly sterilised (temporarily or otherwise) until they marry an employed man.
RJUKL, the solution is simple. Disband our current benefits system.
If I were PM then the benefits handouts would be stopped. If you are not working then the government will ensure that you have the basics. Household appliances will come from a central store, and if they are damaged then you have to pay for them.
Food vouchers, which are not redeemable against booze, smokes, DVDs, etc will be issued instead of cash.
At the time time of your childs birthday/christmas you will be issued with an Argos voucher which can only be used to buy toys.
You will be issued Primark vouchers for clothes.
You will be inspected regularly to ensure you are not living beyond on your means. If they find a 36" Plasma tv in your place then it will be removed and sold to replace the money spent on you.
Voluntary work will be carried out by you, until you get yourself a job and contribute back to the system.
If I were PM then the benefits handouts would be stopped. If you are not working then the government will ensure that you have the basics. Household appliances will come from a central store, and if they are damaged then you have to pay for them.
Food vouchers, which are not redeemable against booze, smokes, DVDs, etc will be issued instead of cash.
At the time time of your childs birthday/christmas you will be issued with an Argos voucher which can only be used to buy toys.
You will be issued Primark vouchers for clothes.
You will be inspected regularly to ensure you are not living beyond on your means. If they find a 36" Plasma tv in your place then it will be removed and sold to replace the money spent on you.
Voluntary work will be carried out by you, until you get yourself a job and contribute back to the system.
Again bobbi, my post isn't about people who raise kids in or out of marriage, nor those who go it alone. My rant is about the individuals who see the benefit system as a career. That doesn't mean single parents alone, although I know some very good examples, but anyone who deems that they are to important to work for a living.
However, to those girls who see having a kid as a form of promotion within the benefit career structure , then I hope you realise one day that you are scum. You have brought a child into this world for the sole aim of helping yourself.
However, to those girls who see having a kid as a form of promotion within the benefit career structure , then I hope you realise one day that you are scum. You have brought a child into this world for the sole aim of helping yourself.
To answer Vibrasphere - of course I do not and I don't usually watch such trivia on television either. Of course all sixteen year old girls don't have three children. The two girls concerned may have been older. Also the boys involved in getting these girls pregnant are as much as, if not more, to blame.
However, it is the outcome of these unplanned births that has to be addressed. Some of them, of course, are born into a loving and lasting relationship, which is a different matter altogether. I am speaking of the instant gratification of unplanned, unprotected sex taking place resulting in children being born into less than desirable circumstances. These children giving birth to children as often as not come from broken down relationships themselves and they feel that having a baby will fill their need for love and affection.
However, it is the outcome of these unplanned births that has to be addressed. Some of them, of course, are born into a loving and lasting relationship, which is a different matter altogether. I am speaking of the instant gratification of unplanned, unprotected sex taking place resulting in children being born into less than desirable circumstances. These children giving birth to children as often as not come from broken down relationships themselves and they feel that having a baby will fill their need for love and affection.
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To Daffy and Bobbisox. You have jumped the gun. This is not about unmarried mothers at all and neither is it condemning girls rather than the boys concerned. I am not speaking about planned or "wanted" babies. There are thousands of babies born each year to hopelessly inadequate girls. They are not planned and some don't even know who the father is as they admit to being drunk at the time. These girls are looking for love and often love the boy concerned and long for the father to stay with them but we all know the enormous amount of care a baby requires, the sleepless nights etc. It is a huge investment for even settled relationships and can in itself strain those relationships through the stress of little money, lack of income, unexpected health problems etc.
Vibra, I'm sorry mate but I fail to see what your point is?
Everything RJ said in his last post made sense. There are good young mothers out there. There are kids of 17 who are working hard to support their family. But for all those, there are girls (of all ages) out there who use babies as a money maker. There are boys (of all ages) out there who will not use protection, nor take responsibilty for there actions.
Do you really believe that as a tax payer it's fair that we foot the bill?
Everything RJ said in his last post made sense. There are good young mothers out there. There are kids of 17 who are working hard to support their family. But for all those, there are girls (of all ages) out there who use babies as a money maker. There are boys (of all ages) out there who will not use protection, nor take responsibilty for there actions.
Do you really believe that as a tax payer it's fair that we foot the bill?
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