Experienced Persons!

[TWR]

There's comment regards employing experienced person's from abroad, Why? Have we not got the experienced persons here? or have they all left due to the pay, conditions, red tape?

[Mamyalynne]

In some professions there is a dearth of people qualified - the reasons are wide and varied.

Lack of interest to train and enter the job , a shortage of training courses etc and yes of course some choose to train up then go overseas for better pay and or morale.

[ummmm]

I know quite a few nurses. They are all Irish....

The UK has some brilliant medics but just not enough of them.

[TWR]

Ummmm, my Daughter went to Dublin, Barcelona, London on a recruitment session, why It's just unbelievable when we have the expertise here.

[bednobs]

blibble blibble blibble

[boxtops]

We haven't though, TWR. If the NHS recruit from abroad it means they get a qualified nurse immediately - if we started a recruitment drive today, it would be three years before a newly qualified nurse emerged from university. Same with medics, but make that seven years. The NHS pays for most of the pre-registration nursing training too - over three years for a nurse, that's a lot of money which it doesn't have. It's cheaper, I imagine, to recruit already qualified people from overseas.

[Mamyalynne]

I didn't see anything in the Op to indicate it was about NHS staff - my answer therefore was a broad one.

[mikey4444]

Not quite sure in what industry you are referring to but if it is the NHS, it would collapse overnight if it wasn't for overseas staff.

[boxtops]

I agree, mamya - but I'm not aware of other industries having to recruit overseas to the extent of the NHS.

[Baldric]

Any particular line of work in mind TWR?

[sandyRoe]

Belfast shipyard isn't what it once was but there's now work refurbishing oil rigs. The people who once had the skills to do this kind of work have long since retired so now they need to recruit from wherever they can to find suitable employees.

[TWR]

I should have stated, NHS

[boxtops]

In which case, TWR, what I responded still stands. It takes a long time to recruit new clinical and medical staffer - faster to bring them in from overseas.

[boxtops]

This article also expands on my comment on the number of funded nurse training places available each year at the moment http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/04/nhs-recruits-one-in-four-nurses-from-abroad

[Sqad]

Try this TWR

In the 1960's fewer than 10% of doctors were female but in the last 40 yrs 60 % of intake for medical schools were woman..i.e more female doctors than ever.
Now....most female doctors end up working part time, usually in general practice and retire early.......good value?

Instead of going for "front line" medicine, most women go for the options that give them more time for the family .......the feminisation of medicine.

So how can we plug this gap both in numbers and in front line specialities?
Import qualified foreign doctors.

For my part, i believe that places in medical schools should be given to those who repay their debt to society.

Nurses? I have no experience.

[boxtops]

I can only partially agree, sqad - some of the best GPs I've experienced have been female. There is equally a shortage of practice nurses since many go into that job for the reasons you say - part-time, childcare, elderly parents - but more and more are now fulltime posts.

//For my part, i believe that places in medical schools should be given to those who repay their debt to society. // how would you know that at the outset, though, how would you police it?