Another teacher sacked for daring to lay a finger on a child

[dave50]

The teacher was sacked because he physically restrained him by grabbing his arms and left some marks! Oh dear, must be assault then! How pathetic. Oh yes he was a 15 year old boy with 'special needs'. What does that mean? I will translate, it means a naughty child, simple as that, same as attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Another label to excuse bad behavior.

[ChuckFickens]

Do you have a link to the story?

[ttfn]

dave50 - have you googled anything on ADHD or 'special needs'? Might be an idea so to do before others reply on this thread.

[Barmaid]

I think the point you are making is severely diluted by your "translation" of what special needs really is. Special needs is NOT a label to excuse bad behaviour. I am a step parent to a child on the autistic spectrum - he has significant issues following a difficult birth. I am so pleased however, that his learning difficulties, emotional difficulties, toileting difficulties and mobility difficulties are just because he is a naughty child. Thanks for sorting that for me.

[B00]

http://www.dailymail....30-years-schools.html

[ttfn]

BM - I thought the op was writing from a point of ignorance which is why I suggested he gen up on the subject. I think there are still people about who have not come across such children, despite the numbers around. I think they are special childfren for the way in which they cope. It also is a fallacy to assume they are 'stupid'.

[B00]

From reading the news story, and apologies its from the DM! It does appear the boy in question was naughty and destructive, regardless of whether he has special needs or not, that behavior shouldn't be tolerated in a classroom. Whether the teachers actions were justified, is up for debate though.

[Manwithnoname]

Agree barmaid however, there are a lot of instances when the disorder is used as an excuse for bad parenting.
Which also begs the question if there is a disorder, who has it ?

[Barmaid]

I agree with Manwithnoname and B00. And yes it is often used as an excuse for bad parenting. My original point though was that the OP is seriously diluting his point by labelling all special needs children as "naughty" which is simply wrong.

TTFN hit it on the head with her post.

[Everhelpful]

Well said,Ron,I totally agree.

[Answerprancer]

This "moron" ?
You call a child with SEN a "moron" do you also call a person with Down's syndrome a "mong" ?

[lozzer50]

ron what do you class as proper discipline?

[Answerprancer]

The adaptation of disciplinary procedures regarding children with learning disabilities or behavioural needs is nothing to do with being the member of a "brigade".

[mike11111]

Anyone care to hazard a guess as to why I choose to live in relative poverty rather than earn £200 per day as a supply teacher?

[Answerprancer]

Indeed Ron what do you mean by that ?
A clip round the ear ?
The cane ?
A damn good horsewhipping ?
Sent up a chimney with pins at the ready if the little b*stard comes down too early ?

[DTCwordfan]

With that spelling of educational, doc, is that 70 or 80 on the scale?

[lozzer50]

i work with kids with behavioural probs and a lot of the probs DO stem from poor parenting. i know there are still people out there who feel that kids need a slap or worse and say it never did them any harm but that is an outdated outmoded way of thinking and no i am not one of the do gooder brigade either!!