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Why Did The Daily Mail Ignore This Story?
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The BBC ran a piece on Thursday's Newsnight, about unregistered Charedi schools, in north London.
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Unregistered with OFSTED yet, mysteriously, all registered witn the Charity Commission, so their tax relief is all sorted…
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jewishnews.co.uk (Feb 2016, the likely origin)
independent.co.uk
hackneycitizen.co.uk
humanism.org.uk
So, why not the Mail? If this was a certain other faith, they'd be all over this story, with the scandal, surely?
http://
Unregistered with OFSTED yet, mysteriously, all registered witn the Charity Commission, so their tax relief is all sorted…
Google shows links for equivalent stories by
jewishnews.co.uk (Feb 2016, the likely origin)
independent.co.uk
hackneycitizen.co.uk
humanism.org.uk
So, why not the Mail? If this was a certain other faith, they'd be all over this story, with the scandal, surely?
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perhaps its because they arent trying to turn their kids into bombers and brainwash them into thinking non jews are all infidels and need to be wiped out, therefore a non story for them
17:31 Sat 02nd Apr 2016
They probably couldn't focus on the details, Hypognosis ;-)
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To be fair to the Daily Wail, they have to decide what they can publish without infringing Newsnight's copyright. (Direct facts can't be subject to copyright but certain aspects of the Newsnight content probably couldn't be put into print without the BBC's lawyers taking an interest). Perhaps the editor thought that there wasn't enough that could be printed?
Thursday night TV programmes also cause problems for national newspapers to pick up on, as Friday's editions will already have been put to bed by then and many Saturday newspapers are largely prepared earlier in the week as well.
Incidentally, the Jewish News story in February related to registered Charedi schools, which were inspected by Ofsted, rather than the ones in the Newsnight report (which are hidden from Ofsted).
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To be fair to the Daily Wail, they have to decide what they can publish without infringing Newsnight's copyright. (Direct facts can't be subject to copyright but certain aspects of the Newsnight content probably couldn't be put into print without the BBC's lawyers taking an interest). Perhaps the editor thought that there wasn't enough that could be printed?
Thursday night TV programmes also cause problems for national newspapers to pick up on, as Friday's editions will already have been put to bed by then and many Saturday newspapers are largely prepared earlier in the week as well.
Incidentally, the Jewish News story in February related to registered Charedi schools, which were inspected by Ofsted, rather than the ones in the Newsnight report (which are hidden from Ofsted).
It is scandalous that children can be kept out of regular schools, (in England, at any rate ) in order to be "home-schooled". This permits parents to have their children "educated" any way they want. Local authorities do not need to know which children are not in regular schools. No lists need be kept, no inspections need to be made of the "home" premises. No standards have to be met. No subjects are compulsory. No inspections have to be carried out. Boys can be "educated" by having religion stuffed down their throats ten hours a day, while girls are "educated" by being taught how to look after Granny and do the cooking and cleaning. Neither the boys nor the girls will be employable in the same way as their contemporaries who attend regular schools. Nor will they know anything about sex or relationships. When all schools become academies, there will be even less responsibility towards such children, and they will slip through even more nets. It is high time the government legislated to regularise all education, to set standards and to ensure this mediaeval attitude to children as their parents' chattels is brought to a speedy end. Ignorance and anarchy cannot be allowed to spoil the life-chances of so many children.
All good answers, so far.
I am constantly intrigued by the way in which the UK can support so many interleaved sub-cultures and yet we're left barely aware of what these other cultures are like or, as in this example, get up to, when our backs are turned.
My instinctive reaction was "well, they are just preserving their culture and way of life, by teaching their children to be just like them" but why am I suddenly so sympathetic with what they're trying to do yet alarmed when it's about a school teaching creationism or when it's a madrassar, say?
Is it because the community concerned is so small as to be non-threatening or do I have some unconscious favourable bias going on?
I am constantly intrigued by the way in which the UK can support so many interleaved sub-cultures and yet we're left barely aware of what these other cultures are like or, as in this example, get up to, when our backs are turned.
My instinctive reaction was "well, they are just preserving their culture and way of life, by teaching their children to be just like them" but why am I suddenly so sympathetic with what they're trying to do yet alarmed when it's about a school teaching creationism or when it's a madrassar, say?
Is it because the community concerned is so small as to be non-threatening or do I have some unconscious favourable bias going on?
@Buenchico
//Incidentally, the Jewish News story in February related to registered Charedi schools, which were inspected by Ofsted, rather than the ones in the Newsnight report (which are hidden from Ofsted).//
Thanks for taking the trouble to read that one, I went to sleep shortly after posting and still haven't followed up that link myself. It was an important distinction to make, meaning that the Beeb story is actually a fresh finding.
I hadn't thought about issues of story-copying because that doesn't normally hold them back from all reporting the same stuff on the same day.
My point, as jackdaw rightly pointed out was one of editorial choice. As baz has (very concisely) summed up, they are liw key, no threat to our way of life and deemed not newsworthy.
The chap they interviewed is at least aware of his own level of ignorance and is desperate to become competitive, for the world of work. He didn't actually say so but he must be painfully aware of the fully-educated competitors, heading for these shores in large numbers.
It's all very well preserving one's culture and having the capacity to intellectualise about the Torah but that's little comfort if you're not going to get interviewed because you're lacking basic qualifications.
//Incidentally, the Jewish News story in February related to registered Charedi schools, which were inspected by Ofsted, rather than the ones in the Newsnight report (which are hidden from Ofsted).//
Thanks for taking the trouble to read that one, I went to sleep shortly after posting and still haven't followed up that link myself. It was an important distinction to make, meaning that the Beeb story is actually a fresh finding.
I hadn't thought about issues of story-copying because that doesn't normally hold them back from all reporting the same stuff on the same day.
My point, as jackdaw rightly pointed out was one of editorial choice. As baz has (very concisely) summed up, they are liw key, no threat to our way of life and deemed not newsworthy.
The chap they interviewed is at least aware of his own level of ignorance and is desperate to become competitive, for the world of work. He didn't actually say so but he must be painfully aware of the fully-educated competitors, heading for these shores in large numbers.
It's all very well preserving one's culture and having the capacity to intellectualise about the Torah but that's little comfort if you're not going to get interviewed because you're lacking basic qualifications.
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