That "Special Relationship" Again

[Canary42]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/us-advises-anne-sacoolas-not-111011298.html

[sunny-dave]

Yep - extradition (rendition?) is strictly a one-way street as far as the US is concerned.

Time the rest of the world grew a pair (or several pairs) and said "No more extraditions to [i the US until we get some [i] from ] the US"

[sunny-dave]

I see the AB italics gremlin is alive and well ...

[douglas9401]

Some might say that our justice system caved in too.

[davebro]

I don't see the point of having someone cross the Atlantic twice to receive a slap on the wrist.

[Gromit]

Not sure why it is of any benefit that she attends the sentencing in person or via a video link. Justice will be done either way.

[douglas9401]

It's like pleading guilty to spare victims of crime a trial, it carries some weight with the judiciary, apparently.

[Gromit]

Thanks douglas.
I think we all know the sentence will be light.

[THECORBYLOON]

GROMIT, what will be the sentence, in your opinion?

[New Judge]

After he's answered that, I'll give you my view (based on the sentencing guidelines).

[JimF]

Given the guilty plea and the lack of other mitigating / aggravating factors, I'd be surprised if it was even a custodial sentence. More likely a lengthy community order.

[Gromit]

She will be disqualified from driving. Considering she lives in the United States, that isn’t much of a punishment.
She may also be ordered to pay compensation, but being a Government employee, she can afford it.

[Peter Pedant]

extradition (rendition?) is strictly a one-way street as far as the US is concerned.

nope - even the Americans think it is - ( and were tittering) however the LCD ( quirkly the long bit is : " The Department of the Lord Chancellor" - now min of Justice I should think) looked at this and decided it was almost one for one....

and the quirk was..... wives of officers at the totally secret listening station were given diplomatic status.... and not surprisingly she is using it

I was amazed she turned up for a trial in the first place, since Trump ( you know the fella everyone adores on this site) said that he wd never give up an " 'murican citizen". - I thought she actually felt guilty about zeroing the teenager. The civil case for moolah has been settled

[Gromit]

PP,
// I was amazed she turned up for a trial in the first place //

She didn’t. She pleaded guilty via a video link from the US.

[Peter Pedant]

words...
she answered the charges

[New Judge]

//More likely a lengthy community order..//

Yes, Jim is about right. It's unlikely a criminal court will order compensation for a death. And since Ms Sacoolas is unlikely to return to the UK, a community order is unenforceable.

[tomus42]

Justice will not be done whether she attends in person or not. This is something that has been agreed in order to make the issue go away for both governments.

[New Judge]

What sentence do you suggest would see justice done, tomus?

[Peter Pedant]

well ectually
I think the plod was wrong to let her go and not arrest her and say - yay ma'am sort this out at the station

( which he later said he wanted to do )

Tell me all abart how sacred the diplomatic corps - but as I said at the time with Yvonne Fletcher - they cd have gone in at the time,
and note a few months ago
in the Chinee consulate in manchester - the consular officials snatched a protester, and the police went in and snatched him back

clearly I was watching the viddie very very clearly

so I say the plod should have arrested.... and history wd have been different

[ no one here knew that the police went into the consulate in Manch in 2022 did they? - not a squeak from Peking nor a squeak in the press]

[Gromit]

Sorry PP, that wouldn’t have been lawful.

She had Diplomatic Immunity. They couldn’t have legally hauled her to the station.