My Mum/s mother died when when my mum was 14

[albaqwerty]

However , my mum was born in 1921 and I cannot find out much about my grandmother.

She had a sibling John Willaim Harlow born 5th Feb 1925 and died 9th Feb 1994

Could someone please point me in a direction to find out more. Ancestry was supposed to bbe free but credit/debit card details were required for the free trial.

[dotty.]

If your mum is Frances then her mum was Rose E Garrard who married Albert J Haelow in 1919 in West ham Essex. I think she was Rose Flora E Garrard born in Fulham in 1902

[dotty.]

Actually that's not the right child as that one died in 1903.

[dotty.]

Your Grandmother was 41 when she died in 1935 , the more lihely birth is Rose Ellen Garrard in Poplar in 1894. I don't think there is alot you can do without a subscription but if I find her parents on the 1891 you can look at the 1881 free here:
familysearch.org.

[dotty.]

I think that is the correct Rose as she was baptised Oct 7th 1894 at Southwark to William and Francis Garrard, her birth was written in the baptism register as 13th Sept 1894, I can't read the address very well nor the father's occupation as the vicars writing is very poor. I'll try to cross check with the census.

[craft1948]

Is it this one dotty...............1911 56 Rounton Road Bromley

GARRARD, William Head Married 18 years M 40 1871 Bricklayer Romford Essex
GARRARD, William John Son M 3 1908 None Bromley E
GARRARD, Frances Wife Married F 40 1871 Bromley E
GARRARD, Rose Daughter Single F 16 1895 Christmas Cracker Maker Bromley E

Frances is shown to have had 3 children 2 living

[craft1948]

or this one..............................51 Station Road, Hammersmith

GARRARD, William Head Married M 50 1861 Labourer Building Shepherds Bush
GARRARD, Elizabeth Wife Married 31 years F 50 1861 Notting Hill
GARRARD, Pollie Daughter Single F 26 1885 Ironer Laundry Shepherds Bush
GARRARD, Rose Daughter Single F 16 1895 Ironer Laundry Shepherds Bush

[albaqwerty]

dotty and craft thank you both very very much

My mum was Frances Margaret

The name Garrard does ring a bell.

I also remember my grandad (my mum;s dad) prodding me with his walkng stick.
He died when I was2 or 3 years old

[dotty.]

It is the one with Frances as the wife, the one with ther mother elizabeth is Rose Edith and the one we need Rose Ellen, the baptism at Southwark, they lived at No 20 but the name of the road is really hard to read like I said, and I can't find them on the 1901 either and so i will try name varaiations tonight

[albaqwerty]

Dotty, many thanks for your help/

I've discovered a Rose Ellen(died 1935 who married an Albert John Harlow in 1919

I wish I could remember the name of the street where my mum said she was born and brought up.

[craft1948]

1901 20 Blackthorn Street, Bromley

William Garrad 30
Frances Garrad 30
Frances M Garrad 7
Rose E Garrad 6
George Jones 61

George Jones is shown to be the father-in-law.............

[craft1948]

Frances Margaret (shown above) was born 1893 at Limehouse, London and died 1902 Ongar, Essex.

[dotty.]

Found her on the 1901 at last, that took nearly an hour! Anyway, they were living in Bow, I've already found the marriage of William and Francis, her maiden name was Jones, there is a George Jones, father-in-law living with the family. The eldest child is Frances M, year older than 6 year old Rose, the reason they were so hard to find is that they are transcribed as Garrad,
There is a link to Frances Margaret's baptism at the sdame church as Rose's baptism and i can read the address better (same one,) it is 10, Selsey Street. William's job is Engineers labourer
OO))) how lucky are you, there is a photo image of their marriage on ancestry, sept 11th 1891 Bow All Hallows, William's father was William, a brewer and Francis father George William Jones an engineers labourer, looks like william and his father in law worked together I guess
Looking at that has led me to someone oin ancestry who has them in their tree actually, hang on I'll have a shufty and see where they fit in

[dotty.]

The person on ancestry is linked to Francis Jones's brother Edward by marriage by the look of it.

[albaqwerty]

Dotty and Craft, thank you both very very much for your endeavours. They are very much appreciated and my apologies for the delay in replying to you.

I remember my mum telling me her dad worked on a 'traction engine' and used to come home covered in smoke, dust and dirt.

Once again, many thanks to you both xx