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[brionon]

I keep hearing that the 'Terrorists' are not true muslims and that Islam is not to blame. But if the adherants of this religion are carrying out terrorist activities all around the globe, surely Islam must accept some blame?

[Octavius]

I think all (or at least most) of the posters here would agree that you cannot blame the entire muslim population, or the religion itself for the actions of a few deranged people who call themselves Islamists and use the religion to perpetuate their POLITICAL aims.

Yes, Islam is a peaceful religion and most Muslims of this world adhere to that interpretation.  However, there are those few who will interpretate the religion differently in order that they can in some way justify their actions in accordance (and adhering to) the rules of the Qu-uran.

From Wilkipedia:

"The Arab term for suicide bombing is "Isshtahad" whereas the suicide bomber is called a shahid (pl. Shahiddin, literally 'witness' and usually translated as 'martyr'). The term denotes one who died in order to testify his faith in Allah, for example those who die while waging jihad bis saif; it is applied to suicide bombers, by the Palestinian Authority among others, in part to overcome Islamic strictures against suicide. This term has been embraced by Hamas, Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a branch of Yasser Arafat's Fatah, and other Palestinian factions engaging in suicide bombings.

Some (particularly US) have attempted to popularize the term "homicide bombing" as a synonym for "suicide bombing" in order to de-emphasize the self-sacrificial connotations of suicide bombing and emphasize that suicide bombers are committing murder as well as suicide."

Furthermore, these people are criminals and murderers, not martyrs.  My concern remains over the people who are able to 'brain wash' these individuals into believing that they are doing the right thing for themselves and their 'cause'.

Regardless of what religion they pretend to follow they are still murderers and pawns in a political movement, not martyrs of Islam.

[El D]

However religion breeds a mindset which is particularly susceptible to this kind of thinking . . .

[nfn]

How?

[MargeB]

Well, cos most of them say this life doesn't really matter, the next one does, which makes it a lot easier to brainwash an impressionable teenager into blowing himself and a bunch of others up in order to secure one of the best seats in heaven.

[nfn]

So what we do in this life doesn't matter?

A LOAD OF OLD RUBBISH I'd love to put something stronger!

Karma?

I am now unsubscribing to this thread due to the pure, unadulterated trash being expressed by some users.

We have freedom of speech but there are times when 'kill the infidel' is an excuse to vilify everyone who doesn't agree

[El D]

What we do in this life does matter, but for these people all their actions are a means to an end - it is very easy to justify extreme courses of action because the 'true' test will not be in this life and will not be judged by man's laws. Do you see?

Add into this the basis of a belief system on faith and other irrational concepts and it takes no great leap to add another. The 'victim' is already brainwashed to a certain degree and dependant on the teachings of their religious guides - they don't question or have any other rational checks because rationality has been subsumed by faith.

I think you missed the point old bean.

[brionon]

Sir Iqbal Sacranie, the leader of the Muslim Council told fellow Muslims, ''We are all responsible because very little had been done to tackle elements in the community carrying messages of hate'. What a Bigot, how dare he blame Moslims. 

[nfn]

brionon, EXACTLY whose side are you on? I'm confused

[Svetlana]

I would say that we should blaim our governments in everything that is happening nowadays. i am about terrorists.

[Peterhouse]

I think it is important not to classify Islam as the root of all terrorism throughout the world. Religion will always be perverted by those who seek to use it for their owns ends. It is an extremely powerful weapon.

I personally am a Christian, and my two best friends happen to be Muslims. I would never blame them for being part of a religion that is being twisted just as Christianity has been. However I do believe that the Islamic community in this country must ensure that there is control amongst themselves, and crush any practices or teachings that may encourage violence towards the people of this country. Preachers such as Abu Hamza and Omar Bakri Mohammed (please excuse spelling errors) should be destroyed by the Islamic community, as they have great influence over people, and ultimately provide the inspiration for the extremist side of Islam.

Terrorists may claim to be Islamic, but this neither means that they obey the teachings of Islam, nor that Muslims are terrorists. We, as a developed and intelligent community, should not place the blame upon the Islamic community, but we should encourage them to ensure that all their practices maintain the Islamic standards for peace.

Andrew, 15.

[queenansarel]

no Islam should't the president was the one who went to Iraq and started war with them who cares what Sudan was doin it was none of or business there were no wepons there at all and the twin towers yes that was sad very sad but if it was the man they said did it was he a real Muslim. I am a Muslim and i think the Muslims you are talkin about are orthadox Muslims Arabs the Nation of Islam are Black Muslimbut the goverenment still want us to be terrorist. your question was so important.