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Thatcher
So last nights tv , the Thatcher years. Her own Cabinet members said she was getting too regal ,would not listen to any advice,and thought she was going a little insane. The public voted her into power,yet her own cabinet voted her out,was it only about the poll tax? or was she just getting powerful.?
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It wasnt her own cabinet who voted her out...it was the parliamentary Conservative Party.
The problem in the late 80s is that Thatcher had run out of enemies...she had defeated the unions, the Argentinians, the steel workers, the miners and Labour.
So she took on local government...but the problem with the way the rates were now to be re-evaluated is that middle England was suddenly going to be landed with greatly inflated 'rates' bills.
Thatcher's popularity took a pounding over a 18 month period, with poll after poll suggesting that the Tories would lose the next election with her.
She kinda ran out of time.
It wasnt her own cabinet who voted her out...it was the parliamentary Conservative Party.
The problem in the late 80s is that Thatcher had run out of enemies...she had defeated the unions, the Argentinians, the steel workers, the miners and Labour.
So she took on local government...but the problem with the way the rates were now to be re-evaluated is that middle England was suddenly going to be landed with greatly inflated 'rates' bills.
Thatcher's popularity took a pounding over a 18 month period, with poll after poll suggesting that the Tories would lose the next election with her.
She kinda ran out of time.
It sometime takes a few years to properly assess a politician.
She was kicked out by her own party, because they knew that she had become a liability to them winning the next election. Major wasn't Heseltine, which was perhaps the only reason he was chosen to replace her.
The program showed that she had been far too bossy for far too long and eventually most of the men in her Cabinet could take it no longer. An ignominious end for her no doubt.
She was kicked out by her own party, because they knew that she had become a liability to them winning the next election. Major wasn't Heseltine, which was perhaps the only reason he was chosen to replace her.
The program showed that she had been far too bossy for far too long and eventually most of the men in her Cabinet could take it no longer. An ignominious end for her no doubt.
I've got another theory...
When someone is successful for a long period of time, they start believing that they are invincible and that their way is the only way.
The number of people willing, or brave enough to say, "No...you're wrong" dwindles, and it becomes increasingly difficult for the person to gain perspective.
...and "We are a grandmother" led quite a lot of people to believe that she'd lost, if not all, then at least a significant amount of her allotted marbles.
When someone is successful for a long period of time, they start believing that they are invincible and that their way is the only way.
The number of people willing, or brave enough to say, "No...you're wrong" dwindles, and it becomes increasingly difficult for the person to gain perspective.
...and "We are a grandmother" led quite a lot of people to believe that she'd lost, if not all, then at least a significant amount of her allotted marbles.
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The Community Charge was a spectacular failure and it was Thatcher's reluctance to accept that which led to her downfall. It was very unpopular and the Conservative plummeted in the polls. But she would not change it. Conservative MPs scarred of being dumped at the General Election realise the only way of scrapping the Community Charge was to remove Thatcher first. So they did it. John Major introduced the Council Tax instead, and won the election.
"The Lady is not for turning" turned out to be a a character flaw rather than an asset as she had always assumed. She did not listen to good advice and surround herself with toadying 'yes' men. A rather ignoble end for our longest serving 20th Century Prime Minister.
"The Lady is not for turning" turned out to be a a character flaw rather than an asset as she had always assumed. She did not listen to good advice and surround herself with toadying 'yes' men. A rather ignoble end for our longest serving 20th Century Prime Minister.
Just a small point. The public did not vote her into power. The voters in Finchley voted her into Parliament and the Conservative Party had elected her as their leader. So the Conservative Party were the people who sacked her as leader of their party.
There have been recent instances of parties ditching the leader who got their MPs elected. Charles Kennedy in 2005 is one of the most recent.
There have been recent instances of parties ditching the leader who got their MPs elected. Charles Kennedy in 2005 is one of the most recent.
Good post by Gromit that says it all.
In life you are only as good as your last success....a surgeon only as a good as his last successful operation, a barrister on as good as his /her last successful case, an entrepreneur only as good as his last successful venture ......Dame Margaret Thatcher had used up all her trump cards.
1993...Conservatives unpopular...ready for the taking.
The electorate wanted ANYBODY other than a left wing government.
The Conservatives won by getting the largest number of popular votes in British history.
In 1993 a chimpanzee could have led to a Conservative victory.
In life you are only as good as your last success....a surgeon only as a good as his last successful operation, a barrister on as good as his /her last successful case, an entrepreneur only as good as his last successful venture ......Dame Margaret Thatcher had used up all her trump cards.
1993...Conservatives unpopular...ready for the taking.
The electorate wanted ANYBODY other than a left wing government.
The Conservatives won by getting the largest number of popular votes in British history.
In 1993 a chimpanzee could have led to a Conservative victory.
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