Knights Templar And Baphomet

[spathiphyllum]

Why if the Knights Templar are a Catholic military order were they (falsely) accused of worshipping Baphomet?

[Mamyalynne]

It's complicated.

http://blog.templarhistory.com/2010/04/the-baphomet-mythos/


Many other references and angles out there.

[Flonska]

There appears to be some discussion of this here:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet

[spathiphyllum]

"writers of the nineteenth century were prone to believe that the Templars were Devil worshipping Occultists, while historians of the twentieth century were of the belief that the Templars were party to the machinations of a corrupt government and church"


So knights Templar were always perceived to be a bit evil / corrupt?

[jno]

why is anyone falsely accused of anything? Presumably in the hope that the accuser will be believed and the defendant won't.

[Mamyalynne]

Well that's quite a leap Spath, research the topic thoroughly. It's not something that can be summed up in a few sentences.

[spathiphyllum]

Well Baphomet is religious.. so even if they were proven to be worshipping 'her?' then it has to be accused because even if it's fact, the entity itself isn't.

[spathiphyllum]

I personally make a direct link between Knights Templar's and Freemasonry. The freemasons have been notorious for their odd initiation ceremony's, their clothing, their cult like behaviour.. This reflects the initiation for satanism / wicca / occultism / witchcraft what not.

[retrocop]

King Phil IV of France had a debt to pay to them. If he bubbled them up to the Catholic Pope that the Knights were up to blasphemous deeds and rites as part of initiation ceremonies and Pope had them bumped off then Philip got out of his debt. ( Ina very small nutshell)

[maggiebee]

Good grief Spath, you're certainly on the warpath today. Is there anything you actually like? Guides, scouts, BB etc etc all wear uniforms and go through a form of initiation ceremony as do Kirk elders - are they all worshipers of satan?

[spathiphyllum]

Retro surely it must go deeper than that?

[spathiphyllum]

Some call freemasonry the satanic brotherhood.

[Mamyalynne]

Retrocop is right, that began the rumour mill and set the scene for distrust and speculation - money.

[spathiphyllum]

Many indications and homages are used in many films (monsters ink for example) that hint on what happens.. walt disney was a 33rd degree mason who ran a private club for the elite of the elites


There are many conspiracy regarding walt and nazis

[Mamyalynne]

Monsters Inc./University - the All Seeing Eye :-)


You're having a good old wander today.

[retrocop]

It’s the saying,”Idle hands make work for the devil!” Mamyalynne

[spathiphyllum]

Or

“Not all who wander are lost”

[naomi24]

Been at the Dan Brown, spath?

[spathiphyllum]

no but good author

[nailit]

//There are many conspiracy regarding walt and Nazis//
There are many conspiracies regarding anything and everything, flat earth, moon landing hoax, reptilian royalty, etc but a conspiracy is not a fact.

//The freemasons have been notorious for their odd initiation ceremony's, their clothing, their cult like behaviour.. This reflects the initiation for satanism / wicca / occultism / witchcraft what not//
And how would you know what satanic, wiccan or occult initiations look like? And when you talk about Satanism what sort of Satanism are you thinking about? LaVeyan Satanism? Theistic Satanism? Luciferianism? All different concepts. And what about wicca? Gardnerian wicca? Alexandrian wicca? Eclectic wicca? (BTW wiccans don't even believe in Satan. Satan is a christian concept, not a nature based religious one)
Its a massive subject Spath and things can get confusing. Good luck untangling the facts from the conspiacies mate :-)

[spathiphyllum]

All perceived ideas stem from one elemant to make them similar and hint on the same things across the board.. that element is truth