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donegal | 17:16 Tue 22nd Nov 2005 | History
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What would of happened if Hitler win World War 2
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Then America wouldn't rule the world Huzzah

Too many aspects to this question to answer quickly, but I think a solid analogy would be to examine what happened in Communist Russia. Stalin was a necessary Ally if nothing else but to add the weight of Russia with its enormous capacity for men and machines, although Churchill was no true friend.


Having said that I think Russia had always had expansionist ideas before the war and certainly harboured them during the winning years. Such was Stalin's desire to reach Berlin first it was reported that Churchill had nightmares where he woke to learn that the Red Army was looking at us from the Pas de Calais.


What you must look at is the post war period of Communism leading up to the inevitable break up of the Central European states and the once more living of Hungary, Czech Republic etc.


If Hitler had won there would have been a tyrannical political grip on us all which he would never have been able to maintain. In short if Hitler had won his rejoicing years would have been short and a very messy split would have been inevitable. The quality of life in the United Kingdom in 2005 would therefore be akin to Romania.

Interestingly enough this exact concept is explored in the film 'Fatherland' - made some time in the 1980's. It portrays a dark view of Europe, and Britain in particular, where poeple live in fear of a politically corrupt and oppressive state. The film is full of many dark images - showing everyday objects we associate with our beloved country tainted by German-Nazi symbols of oppression. One particular image I found most disturbing was that of a Rolls-Royce motor car, one of our proudest national symbols, shamefully sporting the Mercedes three-pointed star. It sent shivers of disgust down my spine. Thank God that we would NEVER let something like that happen !






we wouldn't have won the cup in 1966
Well I don't suppose there would be all these rules from the EEC and probably PC would mean ''really'' polically correct, because if not you would be dead.
Hmmmm.... Come to think of it, that description sounds like a lot of places in the world today anyway !!

There is a whole genre of fiction dedicated to just such speculation called 'Alternate History' or 'Alternative History.' Here is a list of just a few Alternate History books that deal with the topic of WW2:

In the Presence of Mine Enemies by Harry Turtledove
Fatherland by Robert Harris (also a TV series)
Third Reich Victorious: The Alternate History of How the Germans Won the War by Peter G. Tsouras
Disaster at D-Day: The Germans Defeat the Allies, June 1944 by Peter G. Tsouras
The Hitler Options: Alternate Decisions of World War II by Kenneth MacKsey
The Moscow Option: An Alternative Second World War by David Downing
Invasion: The Alternate History of the German Invasion of England, July 1940 by Kenneth MacKsey
Rising Sun Victorious: The Alternate History of How the Japanese Won the Pacific War by Peter G. Tsouras
A Damned Fine War by William Yenne, Bill Yenne
If Britain Had Fallen by Norman Longmate


I don't think anybody could really say what it would be like, although being akin to Romania is as good a suggestion as any. Some say that the 3rd Reich would have been like a Roman Empire (but with nuclear weapons) and eventually it would have collapsed in on itself.

I think the one thing you can say, is that most probably none of us would be here, and if this question had come up on a like site, it would be in reverse.
America and Europe would have been at war and probably a nuclear war at thet
I would not have been me: My Mum would have probably been saved as part of Hitlers plan for an aryan race, as she was intelligent, blonde, blue eyed, tall and good at sports but she would never have met my Dad as he was shorter than her, with dark hair and eyes and a large Jewish shaped nose. Although I look more like my dad I am happy to say I have my Mums nose.

Before you even start answering the question, you have to decide what "winning the war" actually means from Hitler's pint of view. There are various theories about what Hitler actually wanted, and what would have counted as "winning":



  • destroying the USSR and colonising Eastern Europe as a slave-labour camp

  • reducing western Europe to being subservient but independent nations

  • conquering Wester Europe as well

  • conquering more than just Europe

The scenario described in the novel "Fatherland" is based on the first two of these. It is conceivable that a victory by Hitler could have been made easier by a policy of non-intervention by the USA (and an early armistice of non-aggression pact with the UK), but one thing that would have been required as an essential ingredient of Hitler's victory would be the defeat and/or destruction of the USSR. Otherwise, the USSR would eventually have swept across Europe and defeated Nazi Germany. Without the western allies coming the other way, the Soviet forces would have overwhelmed the whole of Germany and led to satellite socialist regimes in France and Italy, as well as central and Eastern Europe.

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