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How Did The Religions Of Christianity And Islam Get Spread?

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akratzer3545 | 15:26 Tue 15th Dec 2020 | History
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How did the religions of Christianity and Islam get spread?
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//Christianity was lucky because a roman emperor converted//
And after his (Constantine's) conversion, went home and slaughtered members of his family.
As you do!!
The 'Holy Roman Catholic' Church came from Constantine...
(and all other's after it)
300 yrs after the supposed death of Christ.

The origins of Christianity are lost.
What we have left, a few gospels, a few letters...canoncal & non canonical...point to another story altogether than the 'official' story.


I am not a Christian.
But I don’t think // the origins of Christianity are lost //.
Money.

If the religion of your conquerors was Christianity, it woul do you no harm to become one, too.

Similarly Islam.

Some religions weren’t so imperialist, Judaism for example.

Buddhism contradicts the argument - no imperialist motives, but people took to it like crazy. Maybe the lack (originally) of praying to a ‘god’ appealed.

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It is agreed, more or less, among religious historians that none of the writers of the four gospels was an actual eyewitness to any of the events that they described. The earliest, Mark, is believed to have been written more than 30 years after the death of Jesus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel

The apocryphal gospels are no help either, since they were all written over 100 years after the death of Jesus.

The Acts of the Apostles does provide much more detail on the founding of the Christian church and its initial spreading throughout the Roman empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_the_Apostles

But, as others have mentioned, it is not until the conversion of Emperor Constantine in the 4th century that the huge spread of the religion began. Good video here:
//Naomi's notion that Christianity was spread by word and text and Islam by war is a simplification that is so far-fetched it doesn;t deserve a response.//

I have to take exception to that. Mention has been made of Constantine, and whilst it’s true that Constantine adopted Christianity, that was some 400 years after the event when the religion was already known in Rome having been taken across and around the Mediterranean by St Paul and other early apostles and evangelists. Islam’s armies, on the other hand, succeeded in conquering vast swathes of the Middle East, North Africa, and into Spain within its first 100 years or so. I trust everyone here will know where on this map Islam began. For those who don’t it’s the dark brown bit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests#/media/File:Map_of_expansion_of_Caliphate.svg

Misleading arguments resulting from guesses don’t answer the OP’s question and are therefore unhelpful.
The current virus threat gives an interesting parallel. Like belief it can spread from person to person, people get it in various degrees from the fatal to the oh well I might have it. The fear of the virus is religion, it forces changes of behaviour on both society and the individual, it has identifying rituals hand washing and mask wearing and places where the most seriously affected go. Hospitals rather than temples. It is mostly not imposed, although sanctions exist but by individuals going along with a new norm, the tribe effect. with religion the vaccine that protects people from infection is education, but there will be those who cling to their beliefs so it can't be eradicated altogether.

Bloomin 'eck that coffee was strong this morning.
Looks like naomi is off again, so I'm out.

I'm not really, I'm just adopting her tactic, I'll come back later and pretend to forget what she's said, it's a wonderful way of avoiding being caught out and unable to answer - just ignore awkward posts and be huffy instead.
Don't make her cross, for gord's sake. The crosser she gets, the worse she gets.
No huff here, AH - like many others just bored with the monotony of your hostility towards all sundry from thread to thread - and you’re still at it. I don't think I've missed any posts, but if I have just tell me which and I'll happily oblige you by responding to them.

Did you just come to repeat your usual spiteful mantra, Allen, or did you have anything sensible - or pertinent - to add to this thread?
Oh dear ...
Something sensible like....Simply put, Christianity by word of mouth, Islam by warfare (totally ignoring the Crusades)?
Oh yes, the Islamic Crusades, let’s not forget them, when hordes of armed Muslims banded together and marched on Jerusalem, slaughtering thousands of inhabitants of that city, women, children, the lot.

Or was it the Christians? I must look it up. Or just ask naomi.
allen, don't forget that on the fourth crusade, the Crusaders were stuck in Venice and ended up owing them a lot of money. The Venetians let them off the debt on condition the Cusaders sacked Constantinople - their big regional rival - which they did.

The trouble was, Constantinople was a Christian city, not a Muslim one; so the Crusaders had missed the point of crusading a bit.
'Crusaders were stuck in Venice'

I've often thought that the Crusades may have been an excuse for a Middle Ages 18/30 trip.
OK, pre middle ages.
jno. “so the Crusaders had missed the point of crusading a bit.”

Or maybe not. Either way, I’m going to wait for you-know-who to put us straight.
I’ll ignore your rudeness, Allen. Suffice to say you're getting mixed up. The hordes of armed Muslims you mention weren’t on the rampage at the time you’re referring to. That happened several hundreds of years earlier. The Crusades were fought 1000-plus years after the advent of Christianity and as I said earlier, were fought in order to reclaim the Holy Land. I trust that helps.
The Oracle hath spake.
the Crusades were in the Middle Ages. But 18-30 is now just extended childhood.

The Sixth Crusade was the most interesting. Frederick II of Sicily, one of the most remarkable leaders of history, was nagged into leading it. When he got there in 1229, he sat down with the Saracen Sultan and worked out a treaty whereby the Crusaders got Jerusalem, Bethlehem and Nazareth. The Muslims kept their own sacred sites.

The perfect outcome, everyone got what they wanted and not a drop of blood was spilt. The Pope was furious.

If you see the cathedral in Palermo, it's got an inscription from the Koran by the entrance.

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