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Social Cleansing ! Is this the tip of the ice berg ?

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EDDIE51 | 08:11 Tue 24th Apr 2012 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17821018
Newham Council is looking to ''export'' its benefit claiming social housing tenants to Stoke on Trent ! as the council can not afford the cost of putting them in private rented accomadation.
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I thought social cleansing referred to the extermination of a race/group?
Are they proposing to move them all to Stoke and then bump them off?
Well you can't have visitors from other countries seeing all the needy homeless folk miling around making the place look untidy. They might think our government is ineffective and that we're a third world country, or something. Maybe a better answer would be to take them to a "Needy Camp" up in Scotland, out of the way somewhere.
if Newham is a rundown inner-city area with loads of folk on benefits with no discernable ecconomic prospects and a useless Labour Council - they are going to feel right at home here in Stoke!
The problem is not the "social cleansing" issue but the stupid situation where we having thousands of people on housing benefit, taking money out of the benefit "pot" to give them somewhere to live.

I know they may not all be immigrants or from ethnic families, but we have allowed thousands of immigrants into this country in the last couple of decades, who cant speak English and have no skils to offer, and many of them settle in these inner city areas.

And of course these immigrants join the already indiginous population in these inner cities, many of whom can't speak English and have no skills to offer either.

If you own a business, and you want to employ someone, you ask for a CV, you ask them to come to an interview, and then you select the people you want to join your company. This keeps the quality of the people in your company high.

But we have not done the same to this country. This country is like a "company" and you should select only the people who are going to benefit you to come to live here.

Living in this country is a huge plus and must be worth thousands a year to a person, compared to say living in much of Africa or India.

But we seem to have let anyone and everyone in, thus adding to the people at the lower end of society who have nothing to offer at all.

Instead of this country improving its stock of people and skills we have watered it down so we now have hundreds of thousands of people who have come to live here who are now a drain on society.

We could and should have handled it so much better.
has anyone run this plan past stokemaveric?
Be ntetesting what the electorial commission think of this. Last time Lady Porter shipped a load of poor people out of her borough it was enough to get her own party's councillors elected. It was illegal and she was personally fined a great deal of money.

Exporting poor people out of the borough, and presumably replacing them with more affluent people will undoubtedly result in a shift in votes as well. If that is shown to be favouring one party over another, it is illegal.
Newham is Labour controlled Gromit. If they were looking to improve their re-election prospects they'd be shipping more unemployed in if anything.
Gromit - you're always dependable to find a socialist angle, and drag in one of your demons - Lady Porter or Maggie.

It gets kinda tedious...
this is incendiary language and often the real case is no where near as bad.
It won't happen for a start, and it's a way of these councils to bash the government, by saying see what we will do, if you start cutting our budgets. The truth is that costs for housing benefits are enormous, and there has to be a way to cut those, and it doesn't have to mean sending the so called poorest to the outer Hebrides, though that is certainly a thought for some of the more noisy of our neighbours.
I don't know how the folk in Stoke would accept a load of evacuees from Olympic London.

They should put a kerb on what those private landlords charge to rent their accommodation.

Either that or wait until after the Olympics and the move all their tenants into the accommodation specially constructed to house the Olympic athletes.
that is it AOG, someone made a cock up when they drew up these contracts as to how much landlords can charge, don't care who was to blame, but if landlords charge a grand a week, and they have space, the council will put someone in it.
those apartments will be sold off to better off clientèle. same as around our way, i had another look at a local estate agents and average cost of 1 bedroom flat is £350,000. And no we don't live in Mayfair, Chelsea.
Stoke has enough problems of its own. No potteries, no coalmines, no iron and steel works and no regeneration since the money ran out.
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em10 under the new housing benefit rules the maximum benefit for a 3 bedroom house is £400 a week , but in most of London the going rate in private rent is over £2000 a week for the same 3 bed house. Someone has to pay the diffrence . It is going to get much worse as with the Olympics rented housing in London is at a premium and landlords can get what ever they like.
Gromit, if this is a vote-shifting exercise, they’ll have to shift most of the population of Newham!
Seems like a game of 'Pass the Parcel' to me. Why should Newham take in the underclass from Westminster.
Come on 2000 grand a week, not a chance. Even property around our way you can rent cheaper than that.
variable rents across some of the capital, they may not be cheap as chips, but no where is.

http://www.gumtree.com/3-bedrooms-rent/london
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The figur of £2000 a week was from the BBC a few months back it was commented on in AB at the time but I can't find it now.
If you Google 'houses to rent London' many are £2000 a week of more and that is for a 3 bedroom flat. It does say rents are affected by the Olympics so possibly they will come down next year.
Eddie, not asking where you are based, but i live in the capital, know how expensive it can be. But there are plenty of properties that can be rented for a lot less. And the sad thing many properties in the capital are lying empty, either council mismanagement, or uncaring landlords.

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