Ashamed Of My Country

[Guilbert53]

For most of my life I loved living in England, I was proud to be English, and thought it one of the best countries in the world in which to live.

But gradually that love has been eroded. I see more and more that I don't like - stabbings, shootings, drug gangs, car thefts, sex trafficing, modern slavery, crime everywhere, and much much more.

Many of these things (slavery, house over crowding) we thought we had got rid of in the Victorian age but they are coming back.

And today I see this on the BBC news page. The Mobike "shared bike" scheme is pulling of Manchester because of continuous vandalism of their bikes.

Ok a small set of crimes in themselves but this company are pulling out of Manchester, the only city in the world where they have had to pull out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-45422065

Sadly we seem to be bringing up a collection of youngsters where anything on the street is "fair game" to be stolen, vandalized, thrown in a canal or whatever.

I said to my wife a few months ago that we are getting a sort of street anarchy among some sections of the community, where they will do anything to "get their own way", even if it means shooting or stabbing someone.

I saw a program the other day where two young punks dragged a woman out her car and stole it. They did not realise that there was a video camera in the car (dash cam) recording everything they said and did.

Part of their conversation covered what they would do if a person resisted while they were stealing their car. "I would kill them without a moments thought" said one of these punks, and this was a guy who was only about 20.

What sort of society are we creating in this country.

p.s. I know someone will blame the Tories for cutting police numbers, and even though I am a strong Tory voter I do feel that this trend should be reversed. However this rise in crime is more than just about police numbers, it is about some sections of society who just don't want to live by any rules.

[Old_Geezer]

Always been bad parents, although the trend for 'hands off the little darlings', is likely making things worse. But I suspect some of the issue is the amount of immigration. Have there been many native Brits having slaves ?

[Bazile]

I would say that there are some in all sections of society , who don't want to live by normal civilised rules

[SparklyKid]

Exactly OG.

[anotheoldgit]

I know that I will be called Racist or Xenophobic for daring to say this, but the demise of our once beautiful country lies firmly at the door of the Multi-Racial Multi-Cultural experiment, which has been allowed to flourish unhindered in England.

[SparklyKid]

Spot on AOG

[dannyk13]

Now there's a surprise.

[naomi24]

I'm not ashamed of my country - I'm sad for it.

[youngmafbog]

That is certainly one cause AOG but far from being the only one.

Poor Policing (driven by sociology grads in top jobs not the bobby on the beat), terrible right-on liberal sentencing from the Judiciary, Poor laws from successive Governments (of all colours) and the me me me parents who dont discipline their kids and expect everyone else to take the blame.

Put all that with a lack of respect for authority in schools and for the emergency services and we are where we are.

Until the liberals are removed from Government, the schools, the police and civil service it will only get worse.

[youngmafbog]

Spath, unfortunately the countryside is now also becoming a problem, particularly with drugs. They are not immune from the problem.

I'll second Naomi's post. It is very sad.

We need a Trump type to drain the swamp.

[Ken4155]

Best answer for youngmafbog. Totally agree with you.

[Ken4155]

For the 14:06 post, obvs.

[dannyk13]

ymb //Poor Policing (driven by sociology grads in top jobs not the bobby on the beat//
Spot on, this started back in the 60's.

[Rockrose]

// demise of our once beautiful country lies firmly at the door of the Multi-Racial Multi-Cultural experiment//
We have car jackings, stabbings and shootings here all the time and I can assure you that the people that commit them are very much white.

[anotheoldgit]

/// I know someone will blame the Tories for cutting police
numbers, ///

The increase in Police numbers would not change things, except to give the peaceful and law-abiding members of society a feeling of protection.

The yobs, savages and killers would not bother they have no fear or respect for the police, and the police are constantly fighting crime with one hand tied behind their back and are afraid of being called, institutional racist.

Until we can call a spade a spade in this country, nothing likely will ever change, but it will get worse I assure you.

[Tilly2]

Perhaps we should all move to Columbia.

[anotheoldgit]

Rockrose

Don't you live in Ireland?

I rest my case.

[dannyk13]

AOG. It's not your case that needs to be given a rest.

[Rockrose]

No I live in Northern Ireland which is part of the UK.
Therefore is part of this discussion too.

[anotheoldgit]

Rockrose

One can be white and also be described as Multi-Racial or even Multi-Cultural.