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Colour or Fruit?
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What came first. The colour orange or the fruit orange?
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"The color is named after the fruit. The English derives from Old French, but originally it comes from the Arabic naranj. Cognates are found in the Tamil, Hindi, and Persian."
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"The color is named after the fruit. The English derives from Old French, but originally it comes from the Arabic naranj. Cognates are found in the Tamil, Hindi, and Persian."
from here:
http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorn.htm
Colours such as orange, lime, pistachio, turquoise and so on are obviously named from the fruits, gems etc they refer to. In every case, the name of the thing predates the name of the colour. In the list below, the earliest recorded use of the name of the thing is given at (i) and the earliest recorded use of the name of the colour is given at (ii):-
a. Orange.........(i) 1300s...(ii) 1600s
b. Lime.............(i) 1600s...(ii) 1800s (originally as lime-green)
c. Pistachio......(i) 1500s...(ii) 1700s
d. Turquoise.. .(i) 1300s...(ii) 1800s
In other words, people had been familiar with the item for centuries before they started to use its name to refer to its colour wherever it might be found.
a. Orange.........(i) 1300s...(ii) 1600s
b. Lime.............(i) 1600s...(ii) 1800s (originally as lime-green)
c. Pistachio......(i) 1500s...(ii) 1700s
d. Turquoise.. .(i) 1300s...(ii) 1800s
In other words, people had been familiar with the item for centuries before they started to use its name to refer to its colour wherever it might be found.
As QM says above - in England, the colour was referred to some 300 years before the fruit was seen.
The name is derived from an ancient Indian word, and many such words found their way into European languages as a result of the movement of peoples in pre-history. Since several vegetable dyes produce the colour there must have been a word for it here from very ancient times. Unfortunately, in Britian, no written records have been found from before the 1300's that describe the colour. So it looks like we may never know.
The name is derived from an ancient Indian word, and many such words found their way into European languages as a result of the movement of peoples in pre-history. Since several vegetable dyes produce the colour there must have been a word for it here from very ancient times. Unfortunately, in Britian, no written records have been found from before the 1300's that describe the colour. So it looks like we may never know.