Work Out Leave Pro Rata

[evedawn]

Help! My maths is rubbish!
Please work out my annual leave:

1. It runs from 01 April 2012 - 01 April 2013
2. I get 29 days per annum
3. I work 30 hours a week
4. I started my job 26 aug 2012
5. I plan to tender my resignation tomorrow and require the following
A. How much annual leave (in hrs) will i have if I request immediate resignation (ie 25.2.2013)
B. how much annual leave (in hours) will i have if my final work day is 25.3.2013


Thanks !!!!

[boxtops]

evedawn, the link's a spreadsheet, try this formula www.sct.nhs.uk/_documentbank/Annual_Leave_Calculator___AfC.xls

[boxtops]

nope - google agenda for change annual leave calculator....

[boxtops]

sorry. no luck with that.

If you were FT you would get 27 days + BH p.a. assuming you worked 12 months
so you work 30 hours a week, you get 80% of that (IMO)
If you leave 25-3-13 that means you have worked 7 months so you are entitled to 7/12 of your full leave
27 divided by 12 x 7 on a monthly basis

Brain's not very good tonight, does that help? Don't forget that your AL will have accrued while you've been off sick, so it's possible that most of your notice period will be AL (assuming that you are fit to return to work tomorrow).

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[evedawn]

Thanks box! As usual your answer hwlped

[boxtops]

I've found an AFC table under one of the Trusts - on 30 hours a week, you'd be entitled to 160 hours + BH for a full year. so your entitlement would be Sept-March - 7 months. 160 divided by 12 x 7 is your entitlement for the period you've worked, assuming you leave at the end of March.

[evedawn]

Yes box I'm still off ill. The depression is why I resigning as although I hope "one day" to do the same job it's not realistic for a long while. However, I DID get another job in a VERY different role and one which I and everyone who knows me ... Agreed will be a better "fit" given my depression. This starts in one week. Of course I don't want to tell nhs Job this as it will seem like my depression has been an excuse. It wasnt!!! It was
Bad! ... And I am ready to return to a job .... But simply not "that" job in nhs. My psychiatrist will be happy to book me off longer(till end of my 4 week notice) but ..., legally and I guess morally I should ask for Instant release? What happens then .., do they pay pit my AL?

[buildersmate]

Boxtops knows in detail how the NHS works; my answer is the generic one.

I don't believe you are entitled to demand instant release from your contract, having given the required one month notice. Some organisations insist that resigning employees using up their AL to avoid paying any accrued holiday as monies (on which you will have to pay both NI and tax). The employee can't prevent this, by demanding to work up to the last contractual day.

However, as you are currently signed off as 'sick', the employer would have no recourse to getting you to work - and they would therefore have to pay you in salary.

The problem (as I see it) is that you admit that your GP is going to sign you off as 'fit' to start the new job next week. If an employee did this to me, I'd be remarkably hacked off. If I then found out that that same employee was no longer 'sick' I'd very much want to withdraw the extra holiday pay in cash in the final salary payment (which you won't get until the monthly payslip in late March). So there is plenty of time for the NHS to uncover your little scheme.

If you insist on starting work next week in the new job, you have to be 'fit' and if you are 'fit' you are not sick as an NHS employee.

I don't see that you can play this both ways - you want cake and also eat it.

[boxtops]

I think I'm inclined to agree with BM - you should give your four weeks' notice, and be signed off fit to come back to work in four weeks' time. Your GP shouldn't be signing you off fit for job #2 before then. Your NHS employer may very well take a dim view of your starting another job when you are officially on sick leave from their employment. On the other hand, you could speak to Occy Health and see if they will intercede with your HR dept to get you released early, since it's job-related why you are off sick. IMO.