Royal Navy Sent Into English Channel ….

[naomi24]

….to help tackle migrant crossings following request from Sajid Javid.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-migrant-crisis-royal-navy-english-channel-sajid-javid-home-office-williamson-conservative-a8709501.html

What is the Navy going to do to ‘tackle’ the problem? Will it take anyone it picks up back to France – or give them safe passage to the UK? If the latter, it is not ‘tackling’ the problem. It is encouraging it.

[fiction-factory]

I think you are probably right. We will probably end up rescuing more. I'm not sure what we can do to stop it unless we do take them back to France or try to force them to turn round.

[Canary42]

Perhaps they're going to strafe them, like the Nazis did to refugee convoys in WW2.

[Peter Pedant]

at last!
a usual suspect on AB realising that 'doing something' may not be the answer
or an answer at all
the new year really has started anew

and there was I expecting a naomi wodge [a standard naomi] of
"yes yes arm them with bells and whistles
and so when they run these brown terrorists and their awful children down their screams are drowned (geddit) with loudspeakers playing the very english hallylooja chorus just like a scene in Apocalypse Now"

and sending Javeed ( djav to his few friends) to France wont do any good - when he says to the Maire of wherever "dont you have a law to obey?"
the maire or whoever will say " desole - je ne parle pas Urdoo"

difficult prob

[maggiebee]

Yes Naomi, maybe they are going to blow up their boats then you can sleep easily at night.

[Peter Pedant]

canary - that is a very unChristian suggestion
shame on you

[Baldric]

Here we go again!

[ichkeria]

I’d have thought the only thing they can do is pick them up. Pointless otherwise. As for encouraging them, the numbers involved are pretty small and I’m not sure any of these boats ever sink. Unlike the disasters in the Med for example. The aim of these boats presumably is to put down secretly on the coast and “disappear” their “crew” rather than be apprehended by the authorities.
This whole thing seems to me to be more about Mr Javid making a pitch for the shores of No 10 with Mr Williamson monitoring his progress rather jealously from the coast and seemingly determined to stop or at least embarrass him. All a bit pathetic.

[-Talbot-]

maggiebee
Yes Naomi, maybe they are going to blow up their boats then you can sleep easily at night.



For Funks Sake just listen to that
Yet it won't be challenged by let's say...the usual suspects.

[naomi24]

Ichkeria, //All a bit pathetic. //

And not only Mr Javid's initiative. ;o)

[CallMeDawg]

Give them all a nice jambon and ship em straight back....plenty of nice beaches to dump them on, in fact their phone providers can pinpoint to a few metres exactly where and what beach, wont be too disorientated then.....

[Theland]

The navy could turn all the sign posts around pointing to England, and send them to Ireland.

[ichkeria]

Beg pardon Naomi I thought you were casting doubts on this “initiative”: so you aren’t then ;-)

[naomi24]

:o)

[Theland]

Or a big floating sign pointing to Ireland saying, "Benefits Office."

[ToraToraTora]

ironically I think putting more ships out there will just encourage them, better chance of getting picked up and shipped to blighty.

[ichkeria]

I’d have thought getting picked up would NOT be what they want. A choice between landing unseen, and quite possibly being able to disappear, was preferable to ending up in a holding centre. These are not by the sound of it the sane fort of people as those on the Med. Many appear to be wealthier Iranians. And they are effectively victims of organised crime : willing victims no doubt, but victims nonetheless.
But not as desperate as many of those who risk life and limb coming from Libya to Italy.

[dave50]

I don't understand the reluctance of the British authorities of taking them straight back to France. Who are they frightened of upsetting?

[youngmafbog]

"was preferable to ending up in a holding centre" Generally they are not though are they and that is the issue. Most are just given a train ticket to lunar house and told to go there. Most dont of course.

It is widely believed by UK authorities that larger boats are launcing these small thinkgs right on the edge of British waters. If this is the case then the Nay will have some use, otherwise they will simply turn into a taxi service.

The answer is to intern all. If you can claim genuine asylum then fine we will help you out (until it becomes safe to return) but for those that are not genuine then we should ship them back to their country of origin. Those that have destroyed papers will have to remain interned until we establish who they are (via their embassy) - and then shipped back. Allow them mobile phones whilst interned then the message will get out fast we are no longer a soft touch.

[ichkeria]

Really ymb? A migrant off a boat who makes it to the coast undetected hands himself over to the authorities and is given a free train ticket to claim asylum???
I think I’d want to see some evidence of that.
I’m not an expert on this but I thought asylum was only claimed by migrants who come into contact with the authorities. Either voluntarily or otherwise. If I arrived on a boat like that I’d want to slip in unnoticed.

[hereIam]

Why the hell do they all want to leave France ??