Would It Be A Bad Thing If I Told People I'm Looking For A New Job?

[abbeylee90]

A colleuge said today he think my boss (checkout manager) would be on my side if he knew and I was looking and managers wouldn't care.

[abbeylee90]

I've seen people be let go and they don't just call ex employees asking if they want thier job back.

I genuinely think he didn't like me.

[naomi24]

NMA, see 18.34

[newmodarmy]

If at interview you're asked about why you left that role I wouldn't advise recounting that story- employers will be wary of someone who makes accusations about managers

[newmodarmy]

I read it Naomi.

it said 

 

No previous experience required; full training provided.

Ability to work in a fast-paced environment.

Strong attention to detail and commitment to quality.

Reliable and punctual with a strong work ethic.

Physically fit and able to lift and move items as needed.

They wouldn't state those qualities/competences/skills if they didn't require them. They are not things they would want to spend time getting someone up to a basic standard.

[naomi24]

NMA, You were talking about skills.  Since full training is to be given  pre-existing skills are not an issue.  Personal qualities are something else entirely.  A good work ethic, punctuality, etc -  can't be taught.  Those things are innate - in my opinion.

[abbeylee90]

No I'm not going to say the manager wasa bully but they will be more concerned about why I'm leaving selco.

[newmodarmy]

Yes naomi- all those things that were mentioned. I have called them competencies/skills/abilities. yes we could add the word qualities as well. Whatever term we use the recruiter wants someone with the following: 

Ability to work in a fast-paced environment.

Strong attention to detail and commitment to quality.

Reliable and punctual with a strong work ethic.

Physically fit and able to lift and move items as needed.

Abbey needs to be able to give examples of how she has demonstrated she has those qualities. I'm not sure why you're quibbling over this. 

 

[naomi24]

I'm quibbling because I can't see how she can demonstrate any of that at an interview.  Only when she's got the job and works there can she demonstrate any sort of commitment, good work ethic, punctuality, etc.  

[DDIL]

Interviewer: can you provide an example of when you have shown commitment to your previous jobs?
Abbeylee:.........

Naomi, they will ask Abbeylee questions at the interview and she will need to demonstrate it through her answers.

[newmodarmy]

Sorry Naomi, but that's nonsense in my opinion. Any decent interviwer who wants those qualities will want evidence that they already have them. They won't normally take a punt on someone and wait to see whether they have those qualities.

Foe example what if Abbey cannot lift things, is often late for work, makes regular errors through not paying attention to details, cannot juggle and prioritise taks in a hectic environment.

[newmodarmy]

Can you give an example of when you went the extra mile to achieve an objective.

Can you give an example of when you handled multiple tasks to meet deadlines

Can you give an example of where you've had to move heavy items around.

Those sort of standard interview questions for roles like this.

 

[naomi24]

I don't need lectures on interviews - I've hired and fired more than I care to remember - but there is no way abbey can demonstrate at an interview that she has a good work ethic, that she's punctual or that she's committed to the job.  You're making a meal if this and for no good reason.   If abbey gets the job only then can she demonstrate those qualities.  The rest she'll receive training for.

[THECORBYLOON]

Plenty vacancies require competencies and require evidence of them even if they're outwith a working environment.

[newmodarmy]

//I don't need lectures on interviews - I've hired and fired more than I care to remember //

Same here.

I think they will ask questions to draw out evidence of those qualities. I would if I were to interview for this role. Looking at it from another angle, if I was applying I'd tweak my application letter and CV to make sure I've covered those points.

We'll just have to agree to differ.

[abbeylee90]

I have never been asked all that at an interview.

Also never had bad time keeping in any job.

[naomi24]

Abbey knows what happens at interviews.  She's been to many.

[newmodarmy]

A final thought- maybe you are right and those who interviewed and appointed Abbey have failed to ask the right questions and have ended up with a square peg in a round hole who doesn't have the required qualities and competences.

[THECORBYLOON]

A pal of mines was applying for a new position within her employers and used examples of doing up her then, recently-bought house to demonstrate a couple of the required competencies.

[abbeylee90]

I have questions prepared for interviews.

[naomi24]

Corby. Abbey doesn't need experience for the job she's applying for.  If she's successful she will be trained.  They've said that.