UNIVERSITY FEES

[mollykins]

They've finally decided to cap the limit at £9000 a year!!!!!!!!! How are students going to afford this????????

[jaydah]

From the female graduates I've seen, now in their 30+ all have debts and are unwed mums on SS.....returning nowt to society presently.

[jake-the-peg]

"Some" is the operative word

Eton has one thousand three hundred boys - 30 pay no fees that's 2%

Not exactly Oxfam is it?

[craft1948]

I see nothing wrong with private education Jake as long as the parents can afford it. It's not as if they get a tax rebate for actually paying for their children's education.

[ummmm]

Or get a refund if they turn out to be thick..

[China Doll]

30+ (just) female graduate reporting for duty... Never been married, no children, worked since I was 18... Currently PA in the NHS for child protection... I think I might have given a little something back.

[woofgang]

I reckon that students are going to become more savvy shoppers regarding which degree to take where and what the benefit would be..Uni's are going to have to really justify higher charges.

[jaydah]

Fee paying children at Eton & Harrow leave vacancies in the state sector.

[ChuckFickens]

if you do get a uni degree then you can look forward to being turned down for half the jobs you apply for due to being "over qualified"

[sandyRoe]

Public Schools are registered charities. Ordinary working people are paying to educate the children of the richest people in the land.

[jaydah]

The graduates I know China - dont take it personally. Some grads are lucky to be 'employed' in companies set up by their families.

All am saying, is reaching for the stars costs & if can't get there choose a goal you can reach.

[ummmm]

Doesn't work like that Sandy...

[MarkRae]

That's certainly true in the IT sector. I do quite a lot technical interviews on behalf of clients and, generally speaking, the more time a candidate has spent in further education the less suited they will be for anything but a junior trainee.

IT graduates especially seem to have learnt little but theory which is (at least) 20 years out of date...

[China Doll]

Actually, just thought, my four closest female friends and around teh same age also have never been married, do not have children and are respectively a charity fundraiser co-ordinator type thing (put her media degree to good use), two solicitors and an occupational therapist... I think like with anything, it's easy to stereotype but jaydar's experience of female graduates certainly isn't mine.

[China Doll]

Not taking it personally, just pointing out the flaw in your argument in that you can't make sweeping judgements like that based just on the people you know, far too subjective. That said, I do think that choosing to do a degree in something that will be actively useful to you in your later job (whatever that may be) is entirely sensible and I do think that a lot of people I know who did 'performing arts' tend to fill a lot of administrative posts these days... I think you have to be realistic as well.

[jaydah]

am glad to hear it China.....high flyers rewarded, who could ask for more.

[sophie_1003]

That is quite a high amount especially considering that taught time on degrees is quite low so are essentially paying to do self study! However, people will still pay it and is the same increase as when they went up previously from around £1000 to over £3000 a year.

[redcrx]

I agree with Lofty.
if something is really wanted its worth paying for.

[sophie_1003]

Just realised it may seem like I am saying it is the same increase as in £2000; I meant it is the same in terms of 3 times as much!

[sandyRoe]

Is a registered charity not exempt from tax? Eton, for example, would need to increase its fees if it wasn't a charity. That means we pay part of the cost of educating the children of the rich.

[LoftyLottie]

Thing is Red, kids these days think that University is just a natural progression fromschool and expect to go and often really don't think of why they are going and what they plan to do after their degree. I blame a lot of this on the education system where schools push everybody towards university - probably to get the schools good ratings. This will perhaps make the kids think. Those that really want a degree and are prepared to work hard to get a good qualification will not baulk a getting a loan.