A Question For The Goodly Ungodly On This, The 169Th Anniversary Of The Birth Of The Man Who..

[sandyRoe]

...famously said: 'Gott ist tot'. Will we become as Gods?

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Yet his shadow still looms. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
—Nietzsche, The Gay Science, Section 125,

[sandyRoe]

Nietzsche, I meant..

[Arksided]

It has to be the turning fish into wine thing... that's impressive.

[sandyRoe]

You've got that slightly wrong. It was water into wine. The few fish were the source of a miracle that helped feed 5000

[Arksided]

I know... sorry. I'm a little jocular this morning, no offence was meant.

[sandyRoe]

And none taken. Many who come to scoff(and not the free fish-suppers) stay to listen. :-)

[LazyGun]

Cheerful chap, wasn't he? :)

If I heard anyone running around muttering that, I would probably consider them mad. I would expect them to throw their lantern to the ground, having it break into pieces, and for them to realise that they had arrived too early.

Personally, I think Nietzsche rather premature in his sentiment, that we have managed to kill that maniac, that mass murderer, that jealous, insecure tyrant that masquerades as a god. We are getting there. Death of a thousand cuts, death by inches, rather than a sudden life ending blow. Better this way, I feel.

So, allow the madman and his lamp out in another hundred years or so, to ask the question again.

[Old_Geezer]

Life is for mortals, thus anyone in a spiritual realm can reasonably be considered dead. Gods, by definition can not be murdered. There is no atonement to make.

But a better question might be, are we not all Gods anyway ? For where would we come from but the entity who created everything when it was the only thing that existed ?

[beso]

The loaves and fish was easy. Anyone could do it.

The fish was off and the bread was stale. Five thousand cases of "No thanks, I'll pass."

[humbersloop]

sandy, is it solipsistic in here or is it just me? ;)

[naomi24]

He’s a bit late in asking ‘Will we become as Gods?’

“And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us....." Genesis 3:22

[sandyRoe]

Humber, I know that my redeemer liveth. But after that what can I, or any of us, know? The chairs we sit in to work on our computers may be as insubstantial as the characters that flutter briefly across the screen. Is the world we inhabit real or a figment of our imaginings?

[LazyGun]

@Sandy "The chairs we sit in to work on our computers may be as insubstantial as the characters that flutter briefly across the screen. Is the world we inhabit real or a figment of our imaginings?
"

What's this got to do with your OP?

[naomi24]

I think he's into his imaginings. ;o)

[sandyRoe]

It was an answer, of sorts, to Humbersloop's solipscistic thought at 12.20.

[LazyGun]

@Sandy Ahh, ok then :)

[mibn2cweus]

The danger which lies hidden by our ignorance is exceeded only by that which we presume to know apart from the conformation of how we know it. We know much more than we realise and much less than we think. It is through the process of reason we learn to differentiate between the two.

There is no reason apart from nor beyond the capacity to reason. The quest for more is blinded at the onset by our ignorance of that which we already possess. The capacity to reason is surpassed only by our lack of appreciation for the means and failure to engage the process.

The quest to be like gods embarks from the failure to recognise that we are their creator.

[goodlife]

With such thinking as foolish and senseless today is, as it was when the psalmist wrote his words over 3,000 years ago.

The senseless one has said in his heart: ‘There is no Jehovah.’ (Ps. 14:1) or the Easy-to-Read Version say: Only fools think there is no God.
People like that are evil and do terrible things.
They never do what is right.

So scoffers will contend that they must first see God’s promises come true, then they will believe them. But there is nothing more common or necessary, even in the course of everyday living, than faith. It is exercised by our reliance and dependence on things as yet unseen.

[pixie373]

Goodlife-

//Only fools think there is no God.
People like that are evil and do terrible things.
They never do what is right. //

do you honestly believe that?