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no worries mamyalynne he just made me feel stupid so i put up the comment about knowing the answer to try defend myself it really was not a bogus question so felt awful when the anwers i recieved seemed to be just pure abuse it was my first ever question and did not feel i deserved the responses i recieved from peter ;-/ im scared to put up questions surely i should not be made to feel like this, what is simple to one person may not be to another does not mean that i am stupid, does it? lol