Criminal Record Check

[dieseldick]

i am considering job in heathrow and gatwick airports, they require ( no criminal record ) but what exactky does thsi mean, i have record from 20 years ago. but i think its off and i never done more than 2 years in jail and i never have anything to do with drugs or sexual offence .

should i get basic check / standard or enhanced ?

cheers

[murraymints]

will depend on what level they ask for..given today's climate I suspect a full check including spent offences will be asked for

[fiction-factory]

They will do the check not you so they will decide what level of check they need-although if it's through an agency they may expect you to pay for it

[fiction-factory]

Sorry- they (not you) will REQUEST/ARRANGE the check. You can't get your own- an authorised body has to arrange it

[mikey4444]

There are two type of CRB checks....a basic and a more detailed one. The employer normally pays for this check, although it requires your authority to do so.

What have the Airports asked you to get ?

[Peter Pedant]

// will depend on what level they ask for..given today's climate I suspect a full check including spent offences will be asked for//

which was never intendedd when the legislation was brought in
( in fact it was stated it would NOT be used like that )
but there is no turning the clock back

this is what the employers have to do
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/dbs-check-requests-guidance-for-employers

as you can see it is heavily tipped towards disclosure
in the name of safety ...

the level of check depends on the job and not on the applicant

[Islay]

I would imagine as it is at the airports it will be the enhanced check. It will be carried out by the agency employing you and it will be up to them to decide if your conviction shows up if they will employ you or not.
The fact that you have done 2 years in jail regardless of the type of crime may well go against you.

[mikey4444]

Islay is probably right here....in a choice between 2 people, one with a criminal record and one without, most employers would choose the latter. However, I wish you luck !

[Tilly2]

It's now called The Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS), not CRB anymore.

[Peter Pedant]

// in a choice between 2 people, one with a criminal record and one without, most employers would choose the latter. However, I wish you luck !//

the whole point of the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act
( ah those were the liberal days !) was to equalise the field for those who had turned their lives around.

we employed those who showed a conviction
clearly at interview they had to argue the point ( different times different life)

[EDDIE51]

You will need the enhanced check for an airport. It shows everything even from 20 years ago, what the prospective employer does with it up to them.

[Peter Pedant]

thx ed your reply gave me the right words for an internet search

https://www.nacro.org.uk/resettlement-advice-service/support-for-individuals/jobs-and-volunteering/how-different-sectors-deal-with-job-applications-from-people-with-criminal-records/#airlines

tells you about CRB - erm sorry DBS checks required to work at an airport

[EDDIE51]

^ Thanks PPP that link shows that airport jobs may need NSV (national security vetting)in addition to the basic disclosure.
I suspect virtually all jobs at an airport are classed as needing NSV now, so all convictions including spent ones MUST be disclosed.
Sorry DD, but I would be surprised if you pass the NSV with several jail terms to consider.

[CrapAtCryptics]

I used to be subject to these type of checks in my previous employment. I had a minor spent driving offence when I first applied and they knew of it but as I had included it on my application they ignored it. I always tell people considering secure employment tell ALL because if you dont and they find you havent disclosed you application goes straight to the bin.

[dieseldick]

it is through an agency. my 2 years jail conviction date was 32 years ago

[Islay]

It doesn't matter you will still need to declare it. You served time, if you did not declare it and it shows up you won't come across as very trustworthy.

[ummmm]

It would be enhanced.

The firm my OH works for got a job on an RAF base. Each employee had to fill in extensive forms including every conviction ever. A few of the lads he works with have previous and they all got clearance.

[New Judge]

Though not relevant to dieseldick’s situation (where he will almost certainly need to undergo a security check or even a counter-terrorism check), it should be noted that generally employers cannot request a DBS check “just to be on the safe side”. The position has to be in a post that is exempt from the Rehabilitation of offenders Act (which allows “spent” convictions to be concealed). These exempt occupations and positions in general are those involved in dealing with children or vulnerable adults, some in the finance injury and those associated with the policing or administration of justice. This page provides a tool for checking whether a position qualifies for a DBS check to be made:

https://www.gov.uk/find-out-dbs-check

Generally, if the position does not qualify then no DBS check can be undertaken. Many people are not aware of this. If, for example, a sweet shop, whose customers are predominantly children, decides to employ a new assistant it cannot ask for a DBS check as the post of sweet shop assistant does not qualify for one. The DBS check cannot be used by employers as a way to get to a job applicant’s criminal record if the post they are offering does not warrant it.

As an aside, dick, what was the sentence imposed for which you served two years? These days serving two years would involve an original sentence of at least four years, and sentences of four years or more are never “spent” under the ROA.

[bednobs]

i have an idea from your previous posts that you were tried in a diplock court weren't you? Does that mean that your offences were terrorism -related? if so, i would imagine your chances would be zero

[hc4361]

It was a diplock court

[237SJ]

It will be a Basic Disclosure.