He Said She Said

[ErictheRed17]

My friend is going through a he said she said case. There is virtually no other evidence save for the accused family given statements. They state that they never saw the alleged incident. What is my friends chances? This could cost him his job and potentially the next 3 years of his life.

[woofgang]

I know an ex copper....he used to work in the Met....you want to hear him about the CPS

[Peter Pedant]

Join in Woofie

s/o who worked in/with the CPS doesnt get the link between 'acquittal in eight minutes' and 'this case shouldnt have been brought'

it is all here eric

from YOUR point of view....
1.your fren has been charged so it is All Going Forward
2.yes if he didnt do it then he should plead not guilty
3. you should support, ( watch and learn)
4. it will be a life changing event for your fren' whichever way it goes
5. you are young enough to do law on the grounds that 'you could do it much better' - as judged from the tenor of this thread
6. you've got an idea about how and why people get charged now
7. and er that is about it - good luck

I havent even covered Rolf Harris - and his accuser
'just another £100 000 again or I go to the police!"
Rolfie : no you have had enough !
and the rest Eric is history.....

[woofgang]

can't speak PP, he only left recently

[New Judge]

“s/o who worked in/with the CPS doesnt get the link between 'acquittal in eight minutes' and 'this case shouldnt have been brought'”

There is not necessarily the link you imply, Peter. The CPS may have examined the evidence, decided there was a realistic chance of a conviction (and that it was in the public interest to proceed). Witness turns up, performs like a wally in the witness box or conveniently “forgets” all the details of the incident that was mentioned in his or her statement (not entirely unknown, especially in cases of domestic violence). So - acquitted in eight minutes (or even possibly at half time following a “no case to answer” submission).

It’s easy to pontificate about the shortcomings of the CPS from the comfort of an armchair armed with virtually none of the facts. The CPS has all the facts which few people outside the court are privy to. In this particular case all we know is what the OP has told us. Not much to go on and certainly not enough to make the sort of the decision CPS lawyers have to make daily. And you still haven’t suggested a suitable alternative to the system you believe is so fundamentally flawed.

“know an ex copper....he used to work in the Met....you want to hear him about the CPS”

With all due respect to your ex-Met mate, woofy, police officers are not best placed to make an objective assessment of the competence of the CPS. Most police officers work on the basis of “we know Chummy did it”. Fortunately the Criminal Justice System requires a little more than that and the CPS have the tiresome job of evaluating the evidence collected by their police colleagues. When the CPS decides that the evidence collected by the police (who remember, know “Chummy did it”) is not up to scratch the Boys in Blue sometimes get the hump.

[Peter Pedant]

too late to get to grips with this
I think I am gonna cry

[Peter Pedant]

if you have a moment to spare
the Met commissioned a report after the Brittan/Bramhall success.

http://news.met.police.uk/documents/report-independent-review-of-metropolitan-police-services-handling-of-non-recent-sexual-offence-investigations-61510

depressing read - the complainant is believed and the subject of the investigaton is invited to refute allegations

if you are rich and famous you get a commissioned report
and if you are man in the street you get scrood as far as I an see