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Very Disturbing Reading, Why All The Sensitivity?
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/// Their abusers, meanwhile, have hailed predominantly from the Pakistani community. ///
/// As a result, police, schools, councils and social services have repeatedly been accused of failing to properly investigate the abuse for fear of being accused of Islamophobia. ///
/// Yet many believe the failure of authorities to properly hold to account those involved in grooming gangs will fuel ethnic tension. ///
/// Their abusers, meanwhile, have hailed predominantly from the Pakistani community. ///
/// As a result, police, schools, councils and social services have repeatedly been accused of failing to properly investigate the abuse for fear of being accused of Islamophobia. ///
/// Yet many believe the failure of authorities to properly hold to account those involved in grooming gangs will fuel ethnic tension. ///
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jackthehat
No need for the aggressiveness Jack.
Unless people protest over these cover-ups they will go on and on, and innocent young female lives will continue to be ruined.
Interesting to note however that those who do set out to protest (although perhaps not in the correct and peaceful way) get jailed and their organisations banned,
except of course those who choose to add looting and violence to their protests.
No need for the aggressiveness Jack.
Unless people protest over these cover-ups they will go on and on, and innocent young female lives will continue to be ruined.
Interesting to note however that those who do set out to protest (although perhaps not in the correct and peaceful way) get jailed and their organisations banned,
except of course those who choose to add looting and violence to their protests.
// Lucy’s boyfriend Azhar Ali Mehmood — a Pakistani immigrant who was the baby girl’s father and had been visiting that night — escaped with minor injuries.
No one had seen fit to inform Lucy’s parents that their child’s ‘boyfriend’ was actually a decade older than her, either. //
The parents knew the boyfriend was Pakistani and Muslim, that their 14 year old daughter was underage and having sex with him, and failed to notice he was 24 years old.
If they had complained to the police then the relationship might have been stopped. But they didn’t.
No one had seen fit to inform Lucy’s parents that their child’s ‘boyfriend’ was actually a decade older than her, either. //
The parents knew the boyfriend was Pakistani and Muslim, that their 14 year old daughter was underage and having sex with him, and failed to notice he was 24 years old.
If they had complained to the police then the relationship might have been stopped. But they didn’t.
Religion and ethnic background aside
“Mehmood was soon charged with three counts of murder and one of attempted murder. After a short trial at Stafford Crown Court in October 2001, he was found guilty and sentenced to life imprisonment, with a minimum of 18 years.”
Wow, a paedophilic triple murder only gets 18 yrs? 6 years per life?
In some states in the us and around the world this would warrant the death penalty or life without parole.
Surely the biggest story here is lenient judges with no sense of justice.
“Mehmood was soon charged with three counts of murder and one of attempted murder. After a short trial at Stafford Crown Court in October 2001, he was found guilty and sentenced to life imprisonment, with a minimum of 18 years.”
Wow, a paedophilic triple murder only gets 18 yrs? 6 years per life?
In some states in the us and around the world this would warrant the death penalty or life without parole.
Surely the biggest story here is lenient judges with no sense of justice.
AOG - //No need for the aggressiveness Jack. //
I don't believe Jack is being aggressive, simply making a valid point.
If there is a news item that involves an ethnic minority, it usually ends up on here, and is usually posted by you.
You post the same stories, people answer with the same answers - as asked, what else do you expect?
I don't believe Jack is being aggressive, simply making a valid point.
If there is a news item that involves an ethnic minority, it usually ends up on here, and is usually posted by you.
You post the same stories, people answer with the same answers - as asked, what else do you expect?
“Considering 3 people and his unborn child died, it is unlikely he will be released.”
That’s dependant on his convincing of the parole board and if he doesn’t get released this time it likely he will at some point unfortunately yet the families of his victims will never be released from their shackles of torment.
That’s dependant on his convincing of the parole board and if he doesn’t get released this time it likely he will at some point unfortunately yet the families of his victims will never be released from their shackles of torment.
Jahulaye
He asked for a review of his sentence in 2014
// But the judge pointed to a prison report which stated that Mehmood "continues to blame others for his offences" and had shown little victim empathy.
His progress had to be "set against the dreadful fact that three people were killed" and the judge said there was "little tangible evidence that he has addressed his current risk".
If Mehmood had been jailed under the current, much tougher, sentencing regime he might well have received a 30-year minimum term, he added.
A sentence cut could only be envisaged where a lifer's progress was "outstanding", and the judge said: "The evidence falls a very long way short of satisfying those requirements". //
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He asked for a review of his sentence in 2014
// But the judge pointed to a prison report which stated that Mehmood "continues to blame others for his offences" and had shown little victim empathy.
His progress had to be "set against the dreadful fact that three people were killed" and the judge said there was "little tangible evidence that he has addressed his current risk".
If Mehmood had been jailed under the current, much tougher, sentencing regime he might well have received a 30-year minimum term, he added.
A sentence cut could only be envisaged where a lifer's progress was "outstanding", and the judge said: "The evidence falls a very long way short of satisfying those requirements". //
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Didn't the parents complain to the police on a number of occasions about him? The police and other authorities referred to him as her boyfriend when in fact he was her abuser and therefore did nothing.
Time and time again parents have tried to get something done and they have been sent away with a flea in their ear.
Not only because these young girls have been groomed to be compliant and complicit but also maybe because the parents can see what is happening, get angry and when the police are involved call the perpetrators racist names etc and so get shut down. I have read several times over the years that is more often than not what happens.
Time and time again parents have tried to get something done and they have been sent away with a flea in their ear.
Not only because these young girls have been groomed to be compliant and complicit but also maybe because the parents can see what is happening, get angry and when the police are involved call the perpetrators racist names etc and so get shut down. I have read several times over the years that is more often than not what happens.
// Mehmood "continues to blame others for his offences" //
really bad news if you are going before a parole board
In another world - those who havent done it and insist thri innocence- - - - dont get out. ( Stephen Kiszko)
but hey we are administering a legal system not a system of natural justice.
Shipman refused to face up to his crimes and at his inquest the jailer was called to account for holding a party when he had put Shipman on Bread and Water for the 50th time
just saying
really bad news if you are going before a parole board
In another world - those who havent done it and insist thri innocence- - - - dont get out. ( Stephen Kiszko)
but hey we are administering a legal system not a system of natural justice.
Shipman refused to face up to his crimes and at his inquest the jailer was called to account for holding a party when he had put Shipman on Bread and Water for the 50th time
just saying
andy-hughes
/// I don't believe Jack is being aggressive, simply making a valid point. ///
Obviously you have a different definition of aggressiveness according to who is dishing it out.
I am getting rather fed up with you constantly speaking on behalf of your 'pals' against myself, you as a moderator should give fair support to all ABers and not just those who you have chosen to take to your liberal lefty's bosom.
/// If there is a news item that involves an ethnic minority, it usually ends up on here, and is usually posted by you. ///
And why not if it is a valid news item, and yes if I spot such disturbing news items, I will post on them, I cannot be held responsible if some on AB are reluctant to post on such items because of their own leftist followings or for fear of being labelled a racist, it is because of this that these disgusting grooming gangs have been allowed to flourish in our country.
/// I don't believe Jack is being aggressive, simply making a valid point. ///
Obviously you have a different definition of aggressiveness according to who is dishing it out.
I am getting rather fed up with you constantly speaking on behalf of your 'pals' against myself, you as a moderator should give fair support to all ABers and not just those who you have chosen to take to your liberal lefty's bosom.
/// If there is a news item that involves an ethnic minority, it usually ends up on here, and is usually posted by you. ///
And why not if it is a valid news item, and yes if I spot such disturbing news items, I will post on them, I cannot be held responsible if some on AB are reluctant to post on such items because of their own leftist followings or for fear of being labelled a racist, it is because of this that these disgusting grooming gangs have been allowed to flourish in our country.
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