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Bail C Conditions
If conditions of bail are that you are not allowed near children under 16 without an adult supervising is it ok to go abroad where there will be lots of children. Going with a 17 year old who is not classed as adult
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Look I am not sure if the advice given above is correct You have obviously raised issues about safeguarding and safety of children ( either your own or someone else's) You dont get bailed with a condition not to go near children if it is all about a parking ticket or credit card fraud, so rather than agonising - I think you should go to the citizens advice first and...
20:12 Thu 12th Jul 2018
In general a person CAN'T be convicted in the UK for anything that they've done while abroad. It can ONLY happen when there's SPECIFIC provision in the relevant UK legislation allowing for the prosecution of offences committed outside of the UK. (For example some, but not all, offences covered under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 can be prosecuted in the UK, even when they've taken place abroad).
Importantly here then, I can find nothing in the provisions of the Bail Act 1976 to indicate that a person who committed an act (contrary to their bail conditions) outside of the UK could be prosecuted for it upon their return. So, as far as I can see, there are no restrictions upon travel in your case. (I'd still advise checking with your solicitor though; there might be a legal provision that I'm unaware of).
Even in the UK it would be necessary to examine the exact wording of the relevant bail restriction before deciding what did, or didn't breach that restriction. It's unlikely that such a vague term as 'not to go near' would be used. It's far more likely that something like 'not to be in the company of' would be used.
Further, even if there was a very tight restriction, such as 'not to go within 10 metres of', there would still normally be an exception such as 'except when going about your normal business'. (i.e. it wouldn't be a breach of the bail conditions simply to be shopping in a store when there happened to be an unaccompanied child shopping there at the same time).
Importantly here then, I can find nothing in the provisions of the Bail Act 1976 to indicate that a person who committed an act (contrary to their bail conditions) outside of the UK could be prosecuted for it upon their return. So, as far as I can see, there are no restrictions upon travel in your case. (I'd still advise checking with your solicitor though; there might be a legal provision that I'm unaware of).
Even in the UK it would be necessary to examine the exact wording of the relevant bail restriction before deciding what did, or didn't breach that restriction. It's unlikely that such a vague term as 'not to go near' would be used. It's far more likely that something like 'not to be in the company of' would be used.
Further, even if there was a very tight restriction, such as 'not to go within 10 metres of', there would still normally be an exception such as 'except when going about your normal business'. (i.e. it wouldn't be a breach of the bail conditions simply to be shopping in a store when there happened to be an unaccompanied child shopping there at the same time).
Look I am not sure if the advice given above is correct
You have obviously raised issues about safeguarding and safety of children ( either your own or someone else's)
You dont get bailed with a condition not to go near children if it is all about a parking ticket or credit card fraud,
so rather than agonising - I think you should go to the citizens advice first and then the social services.
Yes I can see why you are worried
no I dont think the answers so far are much help
No further detail - I think I can see what is going on without further lurid publicity
You have obviously raised issues about safeguarding and safety of children ( either your own or someone else's)
You dont get bailed with a condition not to go near children if it is all about a parking ticket or credit card fraud,
so rather than agonising - I think you should go to the citizens advice first and then the social services.
Yes I can see why you are worried
no I dont think the answers so far are much help
No further detail - I think I can see what is going on without further lurid publicity
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