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Is Face Coverings In Shops Compulsory
Just been into my local corner shop (with mask on) and no other customers were wearing them.
Queried it with the shop assistant who told me that the owner had decided that he was leaving it up to the customers whether to wear one or not.
Also been reported in my local rag that many big name stores are refusing to 'police' customers who dont wear a face covering.
So is this thing *law* or simply guidline's with threat of a fine?
(And how can you be fined for dismissing a 'guidline'?
Thanks.
Queried it with the shop assistant who told me that the owner had decided that he was leaving it up to the customers whether to wear one or not.
Also been reported in my local rag that many big name stores are refusing to 'police' customers who dont wear a face covering.
So is this thing *law* or simply guidline's with threat of a fine?
(And how can you be fined for dismissing a 'guidline'?
Thanks.
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//I sneezed in my mask on the way home work last week. I had to sit for half an hour, on the bus, covered in my own snot and germs from work. Is this healthy?// I've just come off the phone to my cousin (today is her birthday). She is the clinical nursing manager ("Matron" in old money) in a large West Country hospital. She has spent her entire working life (>30 years)...
19:28 Sat 25th Jul 2020
//I sneezed in my mask on the way home work last week. I had to sit for half an hour, on the bus, covered in my own snot and germs from work.
Is this healthy?//
I've just come off the phone to my cousin (today is her birthday). She is the clinical nursing manager ("Matron" in old money) in a large West Country hospital. She has spent her entire working life (>30 years) in nursing, much of it in A&E, operating theatres and Intensive Care. She knows a thing or two about PPE. She will not, under any circumstances, wear a face mask outside of her hospital. She has strongly advised her husband and two adult children against doing so. She has forbidden her youngest child (14) from doing so. Her reasoning is simple. She tells me that the risk of infection to the wearer from a poorly fitted face mask that is fiddled about with and constantly adjusted, removed and replaced exceeds, by a comfortable margin, the minimal mitigation of infection to others the same mask provides. She also explained that in most circumstances in hospital masks must be changed every 30 minutes. This is because it becomes a "sponge" absorbing everything that comes in and goes out, home to a nice warm, damp, microorganism ridden soup which will prosper in front of your nose and mouth.
Her advice is good enough for me. From tomorrow face masks and I part company permanently. I'm even considering whether or not to take my foreign holiday booked for October (if it goes ahead, that is). I haven't investigated the airline's rules yet but I imagine I face being denied boarding. I'll have to take a view nearer the time.
Is this healthy?//
I've just come off the phone to my cousin (today is her birthday). She is the clinical nursing manager ("Matron" in old money) in a large West Country hospital. She has spent her entire working life (>30 years) in nursing, much of it in A&E, operating theatres and Intensive Care. She knows a thing or two about PPE. She will not, under any circumstances, wear a face mask outside of her hospital. She has strongly advised her husband and two adult children against doing so. She has forbidden her youngest child (14) from doing so. Her reasoning is simple. She tells me that the risk of infection to the wearer from a poorly fitted face mask that is fiddled about with and constantly adjusted, removed and replaced exceeds, by a comfortable margin, the minimal mitigation of infection to others the same mask provides. She also explained that in most circumstances in hospital masks must be changed every 30 minutes. This is because it becomes a "sponge" absorbing everything that comes in and goes out, home to a nice warm, damp, microorganism ridden soup which will prosper in front of your nose and mouth.
Her advice is good enough for me. From tomorrow face masks and I part company permanently. I'm even considering whether or not to take my foreign holiday booked for October (if it goes ahead, that is). I haven't investigated the airline's rules yet but I imagine I face being denied boarding. I'll have to take a view nearer the time.
Back to the point...
None of my local corner shops seems arrised with it all, leaving it up to the police to sort (as if there is a local plod on every street corner).
And plod arnt going to waste their time trying to enforce a non-sensical law anyway (''Im exempt officer!'' ...''Oh, Ok, carry on then'')''
None of my local corner shops seems arrised with it all, leaving it up to the police to sort (as if there is a local plod on every street corner).
And plod arnt going to waste their time trying to enforce a non-sensical law anyway (''Im exempt officer!'' ...''Oh, Ok, carry on then'')''
Not many peole were wearing face masks today in the local shops and shopping centre. I haven't worn one so far during this phoney health scare and I don't intend to start now. That part in NJ's post about the 30 minute thing, is something I was told right at the start of the lockdown by someone who is a nurse in the ITU at St. Thomas' in London.
The law is an ass. Isn’t that a well-known saying?
The police have said they’ll only intervene if people become threatening or abusive. (I wouldn’t trust them to do anything even then).Big supermarkets have said they won’t tell their customers to mask up or leave. Small shops have had a rough time and so won’t turn away customers.
It’s all a mess
The police have said they’ll only intervene if people become threatening or abusive. (I wouldn’t trust them to do anything even then).Big supermarkets have said they won’t tell their customers to mask up or leave. Small shops have had a rough time and so won’t turn away customers.
It’s all a mess
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//I seem to remember you moaning that the police harrassed your son for being too close to his friend or something similar//
My son (and many others) were been harrased for simply been outside. I believe that I detailed at the time the lunacy of it. You could stand for hours at a time...with complete strangers in front and behind...to get into a closed environment (shop) where you were again surrounded by strangers and yet get told to move on by police for simply having a (socially distanced) chat with a friend on the way home and in the fresh air. None of it made any sense.
//Now it seems you do want them to enforce laws on the same subject//
Where have I implied that? Im with NJ and others here that are against the *compulsary* wearing of face masks.
//I seem to remember you moaning that the police harrassed your son for being too close to his friend or something similar//
My son (and many others) were been harrased for simply been outside. I believe that I detailed at the time the lunacy of it. You could stand for hours at a time...with complete strangers in front and behind...to get into a closed environment (shop) where you were again surrounded by strangers and yet get told to move on by police for simply having a (socially distanced) chat with a friend on the way home and in the fresh air. None of it made any sense.
//Now it seems you do want them to enforce laws on the same subject//
Where have I implied that? Im with NJ and others here that are against the *compulsary* wearing of face masks.
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