Rip In Rented Floor Im Not Entirely To Blame

[roadman]

i am wondering if someone can help me basically i rent in my kitchen there is a lino flooring the lino flooring was not laid properly basically there are about three layers of lino and the top layer isnt glued to the next so it creates air pockets when moving something heavy i accidently tore a hole in the top of one of these so there is now a small tear in the lino

the estate agent said replace it or fix it or pay up but I think well if it was laid properly originally it wouldnt have tore

is there any legal leg i can stand on i feel the victim of a long ago bodge job and now im the one who will have to pay to fix the issue when it was not really my fault although i was the one to tear the floor but if it was done proper it wouldnt have been able to bubble up like it does when rolling something heavy along it

[bobbinwales]

Here are some full stops, Lol........
I doubt it. You take a place as you find it I'd have thought.... (theres some more)

[Hopkirk]

Perhaps offer to part pay, saying the flooring was far from new and a reduction for wear and tear is reasonable.

[roadman]

id rather just bodge it again than pay a penny to be honest

[dannyk13]

If you are not prepared to fork out any money then just it glue it down.

[roadman]

maybe i will just get some more lino and lay it over the top creating the problem for the next mug to come into the property poor chap


if you think how mean well thats me at the moment im the poor chap who has ripped the bodged lino

[douglas9401]

Do that then, you don't really want an answer, just venting.

[roadman]

i want to know if legally if i have to pay if the problem isnt my fault but fault of the person who laid the lino please

[Hopkirk]

Is lino normally glued down?

[dannyk13]

roadman//i want to know if legally if i have to pay//
Debatable, but until, and if, the landlord tries to make a claim I wouldn't give it another thought.

[dannyk13]

Hopkirk
//Not all vinyl has to be glued to the floor. Heavy duty 'stay flat' vinyl doesn't shrink or lift, so you can lay it without using adhesive//

[Peter Pedant]

// Question Authori want to know if legally if i have to pay if the problem isnt my fault but fault of the person who laid the lino please//

the law is clear - no you do not have to pay

but this is: i want to know if legally if i have to pay if I say or insist the problem isnt my fault but fault of the person who laid the lino please

and the answer to THAT is - if they can show you have been negligent then yes and if they cant, or it is wear and tear - then no

[Peter Pedant]

I wd kick off with
Dear Sir, Ripped floor improperly laid
1. there is a rip in the lino floor in my kitchen
2. this was due, I say to the llino being badly laid in such a way
3. damage consequent to that was inevitable
4. I am therefore not liable for what is not my fault
luv roadman

[bednobs]

just use your contents insurance

[Hopkirk]

All very well and, PP, but they hold Roadman's deposit.

[bednobs]

are you moving out? If so, either leave it and wait to see how much they want to retain of the deposit, and then go into arbitration, or get some quotes to fix it.
If you are not currently moving ut, just temp fix it

[AuntPG]

Roadman: If this was your own home you would have to replace or repair the floor regardless of how the flooring was laid. Being as brief as possible, it does not matter who is to blame, read your Tenancy agreement. Normally the Tenant is responsible for repairing or replacing accidental damage. Contents damage will not cover lino flooring . The Landlord may be able to make a claim on his Insurance if you ask nicely , keep it friendly. If not I'm afraid you will have to repair it out of your own pocket.

[bednobs]

i think it depends on the insurance apg, 25 years ago when i was renting, my insurance paid out for floor coverings

[roadman]

yes they hold my deposit hopkirk

[roadman]

if they make me pay i'm going to take all the lightbulbs with me when i move

[AuntPG]

Lino is a 'fixture' and not included in Contents only Insurance. In my Rentals I take out House Insurance which covers accidental damage and loss of Property, such as water damage, Tenants accidental (but not wilful) damage, and loss of rental due to said damage. The Tenants are advised to take out Contents Insurance to cover their own personal possessions, but its not mandatory. Thats why I advised Roadman to enquire with his Landlord, who may be able to make a claim. If the Landlord has no Insurance or refuses, then Roadman will be responsible for repairing it if this is stated in his Tenancy Agreement. All my Tenancies have an Accident clause -If one of my Tenants spills a bottle of wine over the carpet, or their kids smash a window with a ball then they pay to have it cleaned up or repaired.