is their such a charge

[OPEL123BEAR]

if countefiet goods are deemed worthless
and if their cannot be a rightful `owner` because they are counterfiet
can you be charged with stealing them

i understand that `stealing` is when you takes something from its owner

[Loosehead]

Theft is taking with the intenetion of permanently depriving the owner. Value is not relevent or even mentioned, so yes you can be charged with stealing something that is worthless. Anyway I would dispute that counterfiet goods are worthless, they may well be for the purposes of certain legal processes but they do have an intrinsic value. Also if you think about it there are lot's of things that are worthless to a thief but priceless to the owner. Value is subjective.

[joko]

if i had a bag of garbage, but for whatever reason i wanted to keep it, and you took it without my consent - it would be stealing.