DixieGal, You say if one is not a believer then one does not need to question. If you're speaking for yourself, then fine, but as a non-believer I think it's imperative that we question religion. Whether you realise it or not, religion affects us all, and like many people here I find that objectionable. If by study and debate I can demonstrate the multitude of obvious flaws in religious dogma, then I will. Flobadob's question is actually a very rational one, and his thoughts are not, as you say, irrelevant. He is right to say that holes can be picked in religious doctrine - in fact 'holes' is an understatement. You are clearly unaware that it doesn't take much effort to dig a whacking great trench in it. When he says people are told what to believe from birth, he's also right, and in my opinion he's right to question the ethics of teaching as fact, something for which there is no evidence whatsoever. I can see precisely where he's coming from, but if you can't, and would rather be discussing something else, then do it, but don't try to stop others investigating and discussing that which they deem important.