Slaughter At The Farm

[237SJ]

This was on the other night and I missed it. It`s about the Jeremy Bamber case and it`s on again tonight at midnight. I can`t record it as I`m recording something else at the same time. If anyone saw it the other night, is it worth staying up for or is it just going over what we have all heard before?

[andres]

Well worth watching.

[smurfchops]

Interesting but it's a repeat, it's been on before.

[hc4361]

You can watch it here

http://www.channel5.com/shows/countdown-to-murder/episodes/slaughter-at-the-farm

[grasscarp]

I watched it. It tells about bizarre things he did and what probably started his idea of getting rid of everyone. The secretary involved at the farm was witness to much of the things that happened before the slaughter. His adoptive father had a premonition of what was to come.

[voulezvous]

Well worth watching.
I'd seen much of the evidence before, but this left me in no doubt.

[237SJ]

Thanks for the replies. I`ve decided to delete The Kennedys and record it. I`ve missed part of the Kennedy series anyway and I`ve seen it before.

[237SJ]

voulezvous - when you said it left you in no doubt, do you mean that it left you in no doubt that Jeremy Bamber did it or didn`t do it? I know there has been a lot of controversy about his conviction lately.

[jakep]

I found it very interesting. The police made some errors but I was convinced of Bamber's guilt having previously had some doubts.

[grasscarp]

There are so many things about the whole case. For example he checked with the childrens father when they would be staying at the farm (as he wanted everyone who would inherit anything to all go). His girlfriend said he had discussed with her what he was doing - and even said - tonights the night. It is a case that has fascinated me for years.

[Caribeing]

He still protests his innocence he has had two appeals turned down but after watching the programme and having followed this case I am convinced he did the murders, the family secretary had no doubts that he did it. It was a horrific murder.

[Zeuhl]

I heard that this version omitted several things that have been covered in other accounts:

the Police notes describing the mysterious person moving about the house while they were waiting outside
the mystery of the body moving upstairs from the kitchen between the first Police entry and the later crime scene
the 'silencer scratch' over the mantelpiece that had only appeared later
the fact that Bamber's girlfriend retracted her incriminating statement because she said she made it out of malice because he dumped her

Documentaries are great aren't they? leave stuff in; take stuff out;

[Zeuhl]

It would be odd if he'd done it

If he admitted his guilt he would have been eligible for parole years ago

[grasscarp]

and how did Sheila manage to shoot herself twice?

[Zeuhl]

/the lower of the injuries occurred from three inches (76 mm) away, and the higher one was a contact injury. The higher of the two would have killed her immediately. The lower injury would have killed her too, he said, but not necessarily straightaway; the court heard it would be possible for a person with such an injury to stand up and walk around/

perhaps it was Sheila who was lying in the kitchen when the Police first entered then finished herself off in the bedroom?

perhaps Sheila and the others were all killed by the mysterious third party the Police noted running away while they were waiting for the armed units to turn up?

[Zeuhl]

Who knows grass?

I suppose it doesn't help that the Police initially decided it was the psychotic Sheila and by the time they changed their minds a lot of evidence had been disposed of

[grasscarp]

This is worth a read -
http://crimeheartsandcoronets.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/jeremy-bamber-guilty-as-charged.html
This person started looking into this convinced there had been a miscarriage of justice and ended up convinced he was guilty as charged.

[ChillDoubt]

Not seen the programme and will watch it later but there is something about the case that has never quite sat right.
The man has protested his innocence at great length, to an almost unprecedented level in fact.

Given what happened in the Carl Bridgewater case, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Bamber has been dealt some pretty poor cards.