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737 Claimed 177 Lives 3 Minutes After Take Off From Tehran

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TheDevil | 11:47 Wed 08th Jan 2020 | News
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The plane was less than four years old and had been checked just two days earlier, the Ukrainian airline said

No survivors.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7863359/Ukrainian-passenger-plane-carrying-180-people-crashes-near-Tehran-local-media.html
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i was watching this on the news, the authorities have said it wasn't a terror incident, though how they could tell the reason for its explosion is up for debate.
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Refusing to give the black box for inspection is pretty dodgy.
Probably best to wait rather than speculate.
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It's not speculation if it is reported in the newspaper.
the Iranian authorities are not obliged to hand the data recorders to anybody. investigation of air accidents in Iran is vested in the Iranian Civil Aviation Authority; in any accident it is usual for the airline's state regulator, the aircraft manufacturer and the manufacturer's state regulator to offer assistance, but they are not obliged to accept. if the have the capability, they'll read the black box data themselves; if they don't they are at liberty to ask any competent authority to act on their behalf - the French BEA, for instance.
"It's not speculation if it is reported in the newspaper."

You what?

Do you honestly believe papers dont speculate?
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It's all a bit dodgy.

New plane, checked just days before, what appears to be holes in the fuel tank, retracted statements about why the plane crashed, crashed hours after Iran attacked two US bases in Iraq... It's all a bit dodgy.
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YMB, where is the speculation? Only facts have been stated.
The photos (if genuine) show the aircraft in a million small pieces & over a large area which to me sounds ominous.
//A total of 176 people died after a Ukranian owned Boeing 737 crashed just eight minutes after taking off from Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran in the early hours of Wednesday morning, killing everyone on board. According to the Ukranian minister for foreign affairs, the victims by nationality were 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians, 11 Ukrainians including the nine crew, ten Swedish, four Afghans, three Germans, and three British.
The Ukranian embassy in Iran initially blamed engine failure for the crash and denied any terrorist involvement, however, the embassy later retracted the statement saying that all options are being considered, reports The Telegraph.

“A commission is working to clarify the causes of the plane crash. Any statements regarding the causes of the accident prior to the findings of the commission are not official”, the embassy said in a statement.

Ali Abedzadeh, the chief of Tehran’s civil aviation organisation said that Iran will not hand over the plane’s black box to Boeing, according to Reuters.

In response to reports of engine failure, Ukrainian International Airlines (UIA) who operated the Boeing 737 aircraft said that there was “nothing wrong” with the plane, which is reported to have been serviced two days prior to the crash and was under four years old.

“The aircraft was in good condition… We guarantee the serviceability of our aircraft and the high qualification of our crews”, President of UIA Yevgeny Dykhne said in a press briefing.

Ali Hashem, a BBC correspondent in the region tweeted out a video that purportedly shows the plane on fire while still in the air, although the footage has not been confirmed//
the reports that i have been following said it exploded mid air.....
There is a video that is purported to be of the plane in flames before the impact in this link. Me? I would not discount either a bomb on board or an Anti Aircraft missile.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/01/08/176-dead-include-63-canadians-three-brits-after-boeing-737-crashes-in-iran/

Anyone else wandering what 63 Canadians were doing in Iran that required them to get out pronto? Plus why would the Canadian Govt. put them all on a commercial flight if they were in danger. All very dodgy.
Do the Iranians know where all their missiles ended up

Seems a bit funny that this airplane incident happened at the same time the Iranians were lobbing missiles .
The Devil this wasn't one of the new fleet of 737's which have already been grounded. Older design with a very good safety record.
It’s unlikely a missile would accidentally hit a place taking off from Tehran unless the Iranians were firing missiles from the airport :-)
Cannot see what is “dodgy” about there being a lot of Canadians on this flight. Unusual on the face of it but other than that
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Is it not odd that 'people' haven't released a statement explaining why yet?

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