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Apc2604 | 09:53 Sun 03rd May 2020 | Body & Soul
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On 25th March I posted on Naomis thread about the virus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52493574

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Apc2604Very interesting. Both OH and I were ill in January with flu like symptoms, temperatures and sorethroats. He had a dreadful dry cough. I had a cough and then a chest infection. i am still getting sore throats and nasal problems.

As Robinia said, if we had symptoms like that now we would think it was Corona Virus. Actually OH ended up in A&E (sent by 111) because his whole body came up in a nasty rash. The doctors found nothing significant and said it was a reaction to the illness and this sometimes happens. A&E was packed with people coughing!


And today this is in the news and I am more convinced!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52493574
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Yep, sounds like it.
apc I have had covid-19 ( positive test) and had a rash. The rash put the doctors off at first, they thought I had Measles. I got a test as I'm classed as in the high vulnerability group. I still have remnants of the rash which was on my legs and arms but not itchy. Apparently its the immune systems reactions to fighting a virus.
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It does ZM. The reason why I am anxious to get antibody tests, especially as we are over 70 and I am not in the best of health
There’s talk of such a test being ready in June. I’d say if you did have it and fought it off, then you’re tougher than you think.
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APJ. This is exactly what the doctors said - This was before the awareness of Covid. Early part of January. The rash wasn't itchy but it covered his whole body except for face. He had blood tests for allergies and nothing showed up. The doctor said it was uduslly younger people that had virus reaction allergies!
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I agree ZM. I wasn't as ill as OH, but ended up on antibiotics for lung infection. We both had awful coughs and I had cold symptoms as well. His was a dry cough. Both of us had temperatures.
apc did the fevers come and go? Did you feel really bad then maybe have one or two days where you thought you were getting better then 'bam' it would come back again? Did you feel really cold -so cold you would shake uncontrollably yet have a temperature?
Symptom’s vary wildly so you may well both have had it but it presented differently.
It will be useful to have an antigen test once they have a vaccine -pointless wasting a vaccine on someone who has already had the virus. Until scientists can say for sure that once you've had the virus you will not get it again, its of little value to know you have had it , and could be counter-productive.
Good point, APG.
‘ Theoretically, people who get COVID-19 should develop corresponding antibodies. However, it is difficult to say at this stage how these antibodies will respond to a future infection.’

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/can-you-get-coronavirus-twice#immunity
‘ Theoretically, people who get COVID-19 should develop corresponding antibodies. However, it is difficult to say at this stage how these antibodies will respond to a future infection.’

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Dunno mate. Paid by the word these experts. :-)
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I would still be cautious if I knew I'd had it APG, but it would let me know that I had had it and handled it well. Like you, I have immunity problems, plus other heath issues, plus old age!
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Whoops, I didn't mean that you had old age problems as well!
Relieved to see that there's also an emerging consensus that short-term immunity, at least, is a thing -- reports of people testing positive twice are now being attributed to presence of "dead" material. While that question was open it was hard to know if there was any point in either antibody tests or a vaccine. Still, what matters is long-term immunity, and by necessity that question hasn't got an answer yet. I hope Covid-19 is closer to measles than to flu in that sense.
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I agree Jim. Things are looking up. There is a light at the end of this very long tunnel.
Apc lol! well I'm just north of 60 but feel about 95 at the moment. :-)
//Symptom’s vary wildly//
erm change that to "Signs of Covid vary wildly"

and it STILL isnt quite right

the beeg three ( sorry fwee, not many numerate ABers here) are fever cough and ......
( where's the third one gone?)
arent that good - chance is 67% you will be covid +

this stat is a PPV by the way - chance that if the test/questionnaire is positive what is the chance of having the actual disease.

what people DONT understand is that having a 'rare' sign - rash - makes the test/questionnaire LESS certain. the chance of having Covid if you dont have a rash is HIGHER than the chance of fever,coughing and NO rash

coz more people with covid dont have a rash (80%) than those that do ( present in 20%)

to use Pixies phrase - incredible but true.

Note - this takes a + covid test as the gold standard - but remember some people test positive AFTER recovery and are not infectious
( and still others test positive er because they are carriers)

the lesson which medical students take years to learn - is that having a rare sign of a disease makes the diagnosis LESS likely -

fr instance - 15% of patients wiv disease X have - low platelets, and YOU have low platelets, there is an 85% chance you DONT have disease X
// Relieved to see that there's also an emerging consensus that short-term immunity, at least, is a thing -// my fave Jim

yeah some quite impt people were saying this ( no short term immunity). What like Eamonn Holmes and Amanda Holden ?
no ====people like Dr Fauci

and I have to say - I thought - well if THAT were true, then no one would get better would they? AND
if that were true why is everyone saying lets try plasma coz it works in Ebola, another disease where there is a question about immunity

anyway they have settled down to the idea that the early response IgM - may be usable.
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You're just a youngster APG. I turned 73 last week. (Phyically 203, mentally still think I'm back in the swinging sixties!)

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