Film Sex And Nudity To Have Age Ratings Tightened For Under-15S,

[naomi24]

//Sex scenes that were previously acceptable in films with a 12 or 12A rating are now more likely to be rated 15 under updated guidelines.//

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68596039

 

Right or wrong?   It won't stop films being available to all on television but it will help responsible parents decide what is suitable for their children to watch and what is not.  Not before time in my opinion.

[Stableford]

Only about 60 years too late.

[naomi24]

I agree, stableford.

[bednobs]

and yet, when the BBFC raised the rating on mary poppins a few weeks ago because of discriminatory language people on here were in apoplexy.  In fact you yourself said "The more I read of this abject nonsense the more I'm convinced that some people are just programmed to eradicate all the joy from life."

so what's the difference here?  are we a nation of nannys or not.  Or is it just the mary whitehouse effect of no sex please we're british, but hey, we don't care about discriminatory language?

we either want the BBFC to warn us appropriately or not

[ichkeria]

I have to say what bednobs has just said was my first thought too. I suppose the argument will be that this has come from the public, whereas the Mary Poppins thing didn't...

[naomi24]

bednobs, The difference is that with the relentless march towards 'educating' our chlldren about things they are too young to understand the liberals are depriving them of their innocence and have been doing it for a long time.  The word 'Hottentot' doesn't do that - in fact most people watching Mary Poppins wouldn't even notice it - and yet our children are no longer allowed to hear it.   Barmy.

[Old_Geezer]

They seem to be making the same mistake here as they seem determined to do with global warming/pollution.

 

There are plenty of views on the Internet enabling you to see sex & violence if your parents don't give a darn about you getting access; but what is chosen to be tackled ? Films at the cinema, which must be the least of parents' sex & violence issues with their kids.

 

Authorities really must learn to become realistic. But I doubt they ever will.

[ichkeria]

"and yet our children are no longer allowed to hear it"

Of course they are allowed to hear it: all that happened was a change to the rating to warn parents (that there might be words in there that need explaining)

[bednobs]

sorry i don't buy it.

a difference that makes no difference is no difference IMO.  The BBFC are there to help people decide what films it's appropriate for people to see at what age.  The move from u to PG for MP (and the other film talked about in that thread) does just that - lets parents know they might want to talk to their children about how saying N***** and other words that generally might cause offence either to certain groups or people is not a great thing

the move from 12 a to 15 lets parents know they might want to talk to their children about not replicating in real life the sex and nudity they see on screen as it's not a great thing

[naomi24]

You seem to be contradicting yourself now bednobs.  You've just said exactly what I said in the first place.  //it will help responsible parents decide what is suitable for their children to watch and what is not.  //

[10ClarionSt]

I'm sick to death of moralistic morons dictating what anyone can watch. Last week on ITV for example, there was another repeat of Golden Eye, but at least 2 parts of it had been edited out. One on the yacht Manticore, where Onatopp has a romp with the admiral and squezees the life out of him with her thighs.

Then, in a later scene, Bond is swimming alone in a pool, gets out, and there is Onatopp and he asks her for a meeting with Janus. Cut to the meeting with Janus, but the unedited version shows Bond having a physical encounter with Onatopp where she is trying to squeeze the life out of him, he gets the better of her and forces her to give him a location. That was edited out to protect all you shy, vulnerable, impressionable little darlings. 

Anyway, when this on-line protection bill becomes law, I would guess it won't take long before the tech savvy kids negotiate their way round it. When my friends' son was 13, he was the main "go-to" at school for all computer repairs. He now has a top job with a tech firm, but I'm guessing there are plenty of kids out there who have the same ability with computers that he had/has. 

So, who censors the censors? 

[bednobs]

im not contradicting myself at all.  I'm saying that one cant (without being a hypocrite) say YES we want the BBFC to warn us about sex but NO we don't want them to warn us about other things that may be appropriate.

we either want them to warn us appropriately or not.  

[naomi24]

It depends what you consider to be appropriate, bednobs.

[10ClarionSt]

And there is the problem. One person somewhere decides what YOU can watch. Censorship should be abolished. I ask again: Who censors the censor?

[youngmafbog]

Yes 10C, there is the problem.

What actually constitutes a 12 and a 15?

As for comparing a word in Mary Poppins to sex acts, I do dispair.

And whereas one is an advisory the other will prevent someone seeing it in a Cinema.

[Gromit]

Responsible parents shouldn't need to be told if a film is suitable for their child to watch.

An age limit is arbitary anyway as each child is different. What one child may be fine with, another child might be disturbed by it.

[barry1010]

Gromit, how would a parent know whether a film has content they don't want their children to see or hear ? Are parents supposed to watch films in advance?

Many parents take no notice, I have known 10 years playing GTA that their parents bought for them despite the 18 classification 

[naomi24]

Gromit, how can anyone possibly know what a film might contain without some form of guidance?  One seemingly suitable film springs to mind - one of my favourite 'feel good' movies - Love Actually - and yet there are a couple of scenes in that I wouldn't want kids watching.

[Gromit]

Love Actually is rated 15 not 12 or 12A. So it is unsuitable for children. It has not been reclassified or re-edited to warn anyone it is for adults.