Jeremy Vine Show..should Passengers Be Breathalysed?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.devonlive.com/news/uk-world-news/easyjet-passengers-cheer-30-drunken-9281325

They are talking about this incident.

[naomi24]

//Millions of people drink and drive ....//

but we don't ban sales of alcohol because some do it.   I think you've just met yourself coming back, Andy Hughes. 

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "No-one goes from a bar in a theatre or a sports stadium, and gets on a plane. Again your logic is baseless." - not my logic, yours, you said:

If you want to drink, go to a pub.If you want to travel on a plane, go to an airport. ....

Is that not saying that the primary function of each item is all it should do? I was following your "logic".

We ain't flying the plane ourselves, I don't accept your belief that we should curtail the enjotment opf the masses for a few morons. That's still my position

[andy-hughes]

naomi - //

//Millions of people drink and drive ....//

but we don't ban sales of alcohol because some do it. //

Maybe we should, and maybe, in time, we will.

[naomi24]

I think we should ban banning.

[davebro3]

we will - when Britain is an Islamic state

[andy-hughes]

TTT - //

AH: "No-one goes from a bar in a theatre or a sports stadium, and gets on a plane. Again your logic is baseless." - not my logic, yours, you said:

If you want to drink, go to a pub.If you want to travel on a plane, go to an airport. ....

Is that not saying that the primary function of each item is all it should do? I was following your "logic". //

Not at all.

Flying by plane involves safety rules - no-one would consider, or be allowed, to travel without wearing seat belts.

I simply believe that minimising the potential for catastophe is a sensible way to approach anything, including travel.

// We ain't flying the plane ourselves, I don't accept your belief that we should curtail the enjotment opf the masses for a few morons. That's still my position. //

I accept it, and we must agree to differ.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // I think we should ban banning. //

I never had you down as an anarchist, but I suspect your tongue is in your cheek there.

[retrocop]

 

retrocop - // Might as well close the umpteen bars on a cruise liner as well. That would be fun between port arrivals. 

//That's bizarre reaching for a comparison, even for you.

Do you seriously think you can compare a few hundred people and maybe a dozen crew on a tube in the air, where air pressure exacerbates the effect of alcohol.

With what is effectively a sixteen storey floating hotel with six thousand people and four thousand crew that disembarkes its passengers at around nine in the morning after a good night's sleep, where the bars are not open until mid-morning at the earliest.

If you think those two equate in the slightest, then clearly you are not a regular traveller on either.//

Not bizarre. Some Cruise  companies often advertise that booze is available on a 'all inclusive basis' as well as the food. You are not trying to tell us that cruise passengers do not get inebriated on board ships and become a total boor. Booze is sold on board as a profit making business as well as on flights and airport departure lounges. Are you not aware that passengers have gone MOB due to excess alcohol on board ships which necessitate a reverse course,delays etc etc.A cruise ship would be damn boring if Horlicks and cocoa was on offer during the day's entertainment and no bars. God they no longer do *** shooting off the taff rail. No way thanks.I enjoy the odd snifter and would not have a pious charlatan dictate when I could or not enjoy a drink just because they were stupid and overdo the rum at some party in their youth years ago. I have flown and have cruised. My cruising experience was in my own vessel with a well stocked 'ships store.'

 

 

 

[retrocop]

God this site is a joke. The starred out word is a perfectly description of a type of shot gun shoot involving clays. It begins with SK and ends with T with two EEs in between

[naomi24]

Retro, I'll run that past the editor.  I can only imagine it's been listed as unacceptable because it might be used in place of something unacceptable.  An interesting one.  Sorry it happened.

[retrocop]

Not your fault naomi. Thanks for your interest.

[naomi24]

Not at all. I've asked the editors to look at it.  

[retrocop]

Many Thanks.xx

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - //Not bizarre. Some Cruise  companies often advertise that booze is available on a 'all inclusive basis' as well as the food. You are not trying to tell us that cruise passengers do not get inebriated on board ships and become a total boor. //

No, I'm not trying to tell you that, which is probably why it's not in my post.

// Booze is sold on board as a profit making business as well as on flights and airport departure lounges. Are you not aware that passengers have gone MOB due to excess alcohol on board ships which necessitate a reverse course,delays etc etc. //

I am aware of that - but inappropriate, even fatal, behaviour can happen in any hotel, including floating ones, so that's hardly a valid reason to stop selling alcohol on board a cruise ship.

The instances of passengers lost overboard for any reason is a fraction of the air rage incidents that occur, and if you compare the number of passengers on a plane to the number of passengers on a large cruise liner, the chances become incompatable on a statistical basis.

//I enjoy the odd snifter and would not have a pious charlatan dictate when I could or not enjoy a drink just because they were stupid and overdo the rum at some party in their youth years ago. //

As far as I am concerned, we are exchanging views on a subject on which we differ - I do not feel the need to throw out nasty personal insults at you, simply because you think differently to me.

But if you can't resist the urge to be offensive - please try and ensure that your insults are more accurate than your comparisons.

pious

devoutly religious.

 

charlatan

a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill.

Since I am an atheist, it would be impossible for me to be pious, and I am not claiming any specific knowledge or skill, simply expressing a viewpoint.

Perhaps in future, you could offer comparisons that a hope of standing up even to casual scrutiny.

And if you must be rude - and experience shows that you must - try using a dictionary before you spit out your nasty insults, then you might be within the ballpark of getting your rudeness to be somewhere near accurate.

[douglas9401]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pious

 

Take your pick.

[andy-hughes]

I'll stick with the Oxford English thanks.

[andy-hughes]

Douglas  - Did you really go to the trouble of finding another dictionary definition of a word, so you could re-enforce the rudeness of another AB'er?

That really is a strange way to carry on.

Why not contribute to the debate instead of showing your peculiarly unpleasant side for all to see.

[douglas9401]

They have six options.

[douglas9401]

OED says reinforce.

[andy-hughes]

Goodnight Douglas