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naomi24 | 08:21 Mon 27th Jan 2025 | News
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80 years ago today the death camp that was Auschwitz/Birkenau was liberated.  Never to be forgotten - never to ge repeated.  May those poor tortured souls rest in peace.

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Charles is going to attend the ceremony. The first monarch ever to do so.

Good for him. I wonder why his predecessors didn't?

I went last September and it was no less harrowing than the first time I went a few years prior. Its hard to imagine the scale of depravity and human suffering inflicted but Auschwitz and the other camps must be preserved forever more and the souls who perished there must never be forgotten.

RIP. 

curlyfries - OH visited a local C.Camp (Burchenwald?) in the mid-1950s when he was doing his National Service in  Germany.

It had not been 'prettied up' (as he put it) as they have been today.  He has never forgotten it and also says that their horrors must never be forgotten or repeated.

I know some of the camps have been polished, Jourdain. It's hard to visit these camps and to imagine the sheer suffering of those poor people. Their sense of hopelessness must have been incalculable. 

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Despite having seen films and documentaries nothing prepares you for the realities of a visit to Auschwitz/Birkenau.          

On a lighter 'note' it's also Mozart's birthday today. 🙂

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Can we keep this thread  as a respectful commemoration please.  Political arguments - and music - can be had elsewhere on AB.

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The memory of Holocaust is fading, says Zelensky.

 

 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is confirmed to be coming to the ceremony later.

In a post on X, he says the Holocaust must "never be repeated, yet, sadly, the memory of it is gradually fading".

"We must not allow forgetfulness to take root. And it is everyone's mission to do everything possible to ensure that evil does not prevail."

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yep0l5545t

jourdain. I too visited this camp while doing my National Service. It was as if it was almost part of our training. You are right to say it, then, had not been prettied up. It was a very moving experience. One thing that we all noticed was the absence of birds and their songs.

//One thing that we all noticed was the absence of birds and their songs//

We've been to mseveral camps and this seems to be common to all of them. The first one we visited was Mauthausen, in Austria. OPur daughter was about 10 at the time (now late 50's) and she says she still remembers the lack of wildlife there.

I am thinking of John Fletcher today, the only known Dundonian to have perished at Auschwitz. He, and all those who perished in the camps are never forgotten and will always be remembered.

Another aspect of Auschwitz can be found here.

https://www.northwichguardian.co.uk/news/23753326.story-cheshire-prisoner-war-arthur-dodd-survived-auschwitz/

Lots of you may already know about Arthur Dodd and even read his book. There was also a TV documentary about him some years ago on BBC2.

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Never to be forgotten, ( forgotten all ready) never to be repeated, er....

except in Goma, Darfur, Gaza ( of course, God the return of the Gazans looked looked like the crossing of the Red Sea)

a Million dead at Auschwitz - what about the other five million ? - Or the extra 6 ( non Jews) ?

Russia saying - we lost 29 million ( down to 23 million yesterday) and no one gives a toss

Russia lost 29 million,i would say at least 15 million of that number was thanks to bloody-minded incompetence of their socialist leader Stalin.Remember while Britain stood alone for two years,the Russian socialists were kissing Hitlers ares.

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I notice the slashers have been slashing for un-mimsiness

I am thinking of John Fletcher today, the only known Dundonian to have perished at Auschwitz.

He was refused joining up and so was a non-combatant, and would be interned and not a POW.

He wd NOT be protected by the Geneva Convention.

Aushwitz had a labour camp ( where it seemed Fletcher ended up). The British has already threatened to shoot anyone who sent a Brit to a concentration cmp ( not a POW camp) - and there was a POW in Colditz whose only qualification was - he was a Jew. (Usual qualification for Colditz, multiple escapes).

My father had a (German NCO) finger waggled at him after a run in with the Commandant - ( he had addressed him as " du" - very rude, in public) - "there are very much more unpleasant places we can end you!"

There WAS a prog about a very famous new presenter's father who was  - -  an interned merchant seaman. They had their own camp system. ( blue unis, enough food, no random shootings) passed off as God knows what.

History being rewritten before our very eyes to re-interpret the facts as we now see them

 

 

 

I notice Mauthausen - (NOT a death camp) has been mentioned

Here is one who almost got there

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/19/neus-catala-obituary

If you lookat Wiki Mauthausen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauthausen_concentration_camp

and scroll down  to "postwar liberation "

you will see a banner "los espanoles anti fascistas...." ( Spanish deportados 1939 ended up in  Mauthausen 1945, - very unlucky deportados)

History again being re-written before our very eyes, to suit the facts as we now see them - suitably moderatede by our very wise mods I point out

 

Mauthausen mighjt well be classed as a concentration camp, not a death camp, but it did have "showers" and cremation facilities and killed a few people "for fun".

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