FAO dotty and craft

[jubieanna]

with reference to previous link

http://www.theanswerb...k/Question929988.html

recieved max bresner marriage certificate to beatrice goddard.
max's father is on the certificate and his name is also max bresner and he was deceased when the marriage took place in 1895.
so although im delighted to have gone back a futher generation in my family tree, i know its going to be a struggle to trace this max as ive exhausted all information on 'max bresner'.

just thought id update you and thank you once again for all your help on this

[Barmaid]

I've found him on the 1911 census (under Brisner - another 1911 transcription error) and he says his nationality is british - whether this means he was naturlised or born british, I have no idea.

[jubieanna]

thank you barmaid. i haven't go access to 1911 census. what age is he in 1911?

[dotty.]

what was max snr's given occupation on the marriage cert? anything that may suggest travel abroard?

[jubieanna]

he was down as a 'clothier'

[Barmaid]

Hang on a mo, I'll transcribe the entry onto here.

[dotty.]

A clothier bought and sold fabrics and cloth, the level of business varied from selling locally woven pieces at local markets , or importing and distributing bulk qualtities, I'm wondering with the egyptian connection whether it was the egyptian cotton industry, which would tie in nicely with cardiff docks

[Barmaid]

Max Bresner 34 married for 16 years, 6 children of whom 6 were living, quarry labourer at Portland Cement and lime ****, worker, born in egypt, british subject, speaks english
Beatrice, wife, 31, born in Cardiff
Joseph Henry, 15, errand boy, Waggon works, born in Penarth
Alfred Max, 14, errand boy, stationers, born in Penarth
Sarah, 10 months, born in Llanwrit Major

All living in 5 rooms at 50 Mackworth Street, Bridgend.

I've found two of the daughters staying with an aunt or uncle as well, so I'll post those in a mo.

[jubieanna]

yes that makes sense dotty

[jubieanna]

thanks for taking time to help. this info is brill :-)

[dotty.]

hey I lived at Llantwit Major when i was first married, there is a huge cement works still on the coast there, Blue Circle Cement it was in the 1970s, near the airport.
Bridgend is 10 miles west of LLantwit and there are quarries all around there. Penarth is about 10 miles the other side of Llantwit nearer to Cardiff, all those places have docks/ports.

[jubieanna]

im quite familiar with the area as i was born in penarth as was my father. i still have family living in bridgend so it all makes sense.

[dotty.]

on 1901 there was a reuben aged 1 barmaid, can you spot him? he's still alive at it says 6 of 6 alive, he could be with a grandmother bresner somewhere!

[dotty.]

Oh I worked in Howells on St Mary St Cardiff jubie

[Barmaid]

Walter James Vaughan aged 40 married, occupation carter hacker, contractor, born in Somerset but I can't read where, english
Mary Ann, wife, 39, married 5 years, no children, born in Cardiff L? Wells
Ethel Bresner, 7, niece, at school, born in Penarth
Mary Duggan, 68, widow, boarder, born in Methyr, Welsh
Gladys Bresner, 4, niece, born in Penarth.

So by my reckoning we just need to find child number 6!

My guess is that Mary Ann was Beatrice's sister.

[Barmaid]

Can't find Reuben yet Dotty, will keep hunting (my own research is proving extremely frustrating today so I've given up).

[jubieanna]

reuben bresner was my grandfather dotty

[dotty.]

ahh so where is he on the 1911? he would be 11 years old,

[Barmaid]

Well Reuben got married in 1922 and died in 1959 so he MUST be on the 1911 somewhere!!!

[jubieanna]

mary-ann is beatrice sister. they had a double wedding in dec 1985. beatrice to max jnr and maty-ann to leon rosenblatt.
who is gladys bresner age 4? this is interesting because my grandmothers name was gladys but she was born 'hutchings' in crewkerne

[jubieanna]

oops sorry max and beatrice married in 1895 not 1985