FAO craft

[dotty.]

craft could you do a look up on 1911 please? i can't find my copy of my grandad on the 1911 census. he was ernest lumb born 1898 his parents were Benjamin Lumb (1873) and Mary (1876) and they also had Hilda 1899, lewis 1900 and wallace 1905, they will have been living at upper greetland i think, can't find my copy in my file or on my ancestry tree or in my word docs gawd knows what i've done with it!

[dotty.]

I'm mystified with this, I've logged onto 1911.co.uk and found all the transcripts of the ones i searched back when the site went beta and i know i looked at his, but it's not in my paid for list!

[Rose Maybud]

Benjamin Lumb age 37 stone quarryman b 1874 Barkisland
Mary marr 13 years age 34 b 1877 Barkisland
Ernest age 12 school b 1899 Norland
Hilda age 11 school b 1900 Sowerby
Lewis age 5 born 1906 Hebden Bridge
Fred age 2 b 1909 Hebden Bridge

The address was Round Field, Eastwood? Todmorden RD West Riding

Benjamin & Mary had produced five children, all of whom were alive in 1911.

[Rose Maybud]

Sorry, can't read straight.
Lewis was born 1903 Barkisland
Wallace was born 1906 Hebden Bridge

[dotty.]

cheers Rose, Wallace was born Deaf and Dumb, he died when I was in my 30s. He was sent to the Royal Cross School for the Deaf in Preston in the early 1920s and learnt to make beautiful furniture and carvings.

[dotty.]

sorry, he was born in 1905, in 1911 he would have been just 5 and 6 months, I didn;t think they had sent him to the school in preston so early, I have letters here he sent home in 1921 when he mentions that there is no epidemic at the school! He must have stayed at te school from a very young age.

[dotty.]

is there any chance you could look at the Royal Cross School Preston in 1911 to see if Wallace Lumb is actually a boarder there Rose?

[craft1948]

Wallace is at home with the rest of the family dot.

[craft1948]

Funny address

Address RAUND FIELDMULCTURE HALL EASTWOOD TODMORDEN County Yorkshire West Riding
District Todmorden Subdistrict Todmorden
Enumeration District 20 Parish Todmorden

[craft1948]

LUMB, BENJAMIN HEAD MARRIED 13 M 37 STONE QUAREYMAN BARKISLAND
LUMB, MARY WIFE MARRIED F 34 BARKISLAND
LUMB, ERNEST SON M 12 SCHOOL NORLAND
LUMB, HILDA DAUGHTER F 11 SCHOOL SOWERBY
LUMB, LEWIS SON M 8 SCHOOL BARKISLAND
LUMB, WALLACE SON M 5 HEBDEN BRIDGE
LUMB, FRED SON M 2 HEBDEN BRIDGE

[dotty.]

ahh right, Rose didn't list him. Mulcture hall i know, it's just outside Tod.

[Rose Maybud]

Do you know the address in 1911? I've googled the history here: http://www.schooltrai...history/datesrcps.htm
which says the school has moved several times, but doesn't say where it was in 1911.
Also, would the school have listed him in the Census, being as he appeared as residing with his family on Census night?

[anneasquith]

you lot are very clever, great communication, best way to use ab.

[dotty.]

My great great grandmother on my grandmas side had easteood post office which is how my grandparents met, Ernest had been in the army til 1918 and whilst he was away my grandma's family moved to Eastwood and one day my grandma was walking up the hill to cross stone and grandad was walking down and they met up, my grandma asked him who he was and he said he was the eldest Lumb son Ernest and she said they didn't have a son called Ernest! He'd been away and so she didn't know he existed. A week or so later they accidentally met again as they were both going down into Tod and the rest is history.

[dotty.]

no Rose he mustn't have been at the Royal Cross school in 1911, not sure when that school started, it's really wierd but I now work just half a mile from the school in preston and someone i work with's sister in law went there in the 1960s.

[dotty.]

My Gawd that link is brilliant Rose, and for heavens sake talk about coincidence! My Dad worked on Lord Derby's estates right throug the 1960s and 70s and we lived in a house built on the site of the old Cross hall at Ormskirk, the seat of the Earls of Derby (The Stanley Family) that headmaster mentioned must have been my great uncle wallaces headmaster.

[Rose Maybud]

Had a thought after I switched the computer off last night - looked for the headmaster of the Royal Cross School (J G Shaw) in 1911. The school was in Newhall Lane in 1911. There are four census pages to the 'institution' listing 24 staff, 33 boys and 42 girls, so rather too many to list here. The reference is RG14 Piece PN25273 RD 476 SD 2 (East Preston) ED 31. The youngest child there was 6, the oldest was 15. Your Wallace (sorry for missing him from the list the first time!) may well have started attending in 1912 - 1913.
John George Shaw was aged 59, married, born 1859 Heaton Norris, occupation head master.